2011 Hyundai Elantra 1.8L Engine Oil Filter - Want a longer oil filter.

[Carlostrece]

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/premium-guard-tsb-on-website-for-hyundai-kia-for-pg4459.392708/

I don't think it was a filter problem but somehow motor issues creating crazy high pressures. That would burst most filters. PG just covering their butts.

Understood. PG made filters have thick cans. NAPA Gold has an even thicker can than other PG filters. I have no worries of a NAPA Gold can bursting. It's almost as thick as a Baldwin can, and those are built like a tank.

 

[Propflux01]

The stock size oil filter is so tiny it looks like a toy. The stock tiny size filter is
Napa Gold 1334 or Oreilly Microgard Select MSL51334.

Does anyone know if there's a compatible longer filter available? Ideally a longer NAPA Gold filter.

Most aftermarket filters on that Hyundai call for a 6607 type. They are much smaller than the OEM. The regular OEM oil filter is a well-built, heavy-duty filter that's used on many Hyundai engines. It's a well made filter. Why not use it?

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Not as easy to get like walking into NAPA. I don’t have any left to measure. The factory filter for Honda S2000 was larger diameter and maybe longer than regular Honda or the 7317 equivalent’s. It was too wide to fit on my Accord or daughters CRV and the can was THICK.

 

[GSCJR]

Most aftermarket filters on that Hyundai call for a 6607 type. They are much smaller than the OEM.

In my experience, they are more like 9688/1334, which are equal in size to the OEM. @Carlostrece, I would just use the any variant of the 1334 or as @Propflux0 suggested, an genuine Hyundai filter; you're overthinking this.

 

[WobblyElvis]

They Hyundai filter is well made and inexpensive.

 

[Carlostrece]

Most aftermarket filters on that Hyundai call for a 6607 type. They are much smaller than the OEM. The regular OEM oil filter is a well-built, heavy-duty filter that's used on many Hyundai engines. It's a well made filter. Why not use it?

I've never seen an OEM filter. It had a cheap aftermarket filter on it (from some quickie lube). I replaced that with a NAPA 1334 filter, which NAPA's website recommended for it.

I'll check out the OEM filter you mentioned, and the overpressure issue that Sequoiasoon mentioned.

That said, a cheap quickie lube filter survived 5K miles in year round use. So I think a NAPA Gold (much thicker can) will be fine. I do appreciate the heads up though.

 

[Carlostrece]

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/premium-guard-tsb-on-website-for-hyundai-kia-for-pg4459.392708/

I don't think it was a filter problem but somehow motor issues creating crazy high pressures. That would burst most filters. PG just covering their butts.

A cheap quickie lube filter survived for 5K miles. So I think a better NAPA Gold filter with thicker can will survive the 3.5K OCI it will get in future.

I'll look into the concern you mentioned. I just read the thread you linked to. Thanks for the info!

Edited in Later: Oops! I later realized that I'd already previously replied to your post. Oh well. This second reply was an accident. We could also just say I replied twice because you content is awesome!

 

[Carlostrece]

They Hyundai filter is well made and inexpensive.

The Hyundai filter in video weighs 323 grams. The NAPA Gold (NG)1334 weighs 342 grams. The video says the Hyundai can is beefy. I believe it. The NG 1334 can is more beefy.

I know from personal experience having purchased both Oreilly Microgard Select (MS) and NG filter for my Buick that they're both heavy filters with beefy thick cans. The NG even moreso than the MS.

In threads about MS & PG in general, it's been noted that MS & PG cans are thick. However, NG cans are thicker yet. Apparently NAPA specified a thicker can in its specs for PG to make NG filters.

This was also observed in a filter dissection video of a MS & NG can. See video below.

So I'm not surprised that the NG can is heavier and thicker than an OEM Hyundai filter can.

 

[dubber09]

You are WAAAAY overthinking it.
OEM Kia/Hyundai filter is of very good quality, if engine doesn't have any issues filter can last 10-12k miles.
I use Mann filters, that's the original design used to produce Kia filters, same build quality, same bypass valve rating, often cheaper thus I use them.
Just use OEM or Mann and stick with 4-5k miles for a regular OCI with oil like M1 ESP 0w-30 on that engine and it'll be golden.

 

[Carlostrece]

You are WAAAAY overthinking it.
OEM Kia/Hyundai filter is of very good quality, if engine doesn't have any issues filter can last 10-12k miles.
I use Mann filters, that's the original design used to produce Kia filters, same build quality, same bypass valve rating, often cheaper thus I use them.
Just use OEM or Mann and stick with 4-5k miles for a regular OCI with oil like M1 ESP 0w-30 on that engine and it'll be golden.

You might be underthinking it.

There's many threads that explain and show why Prenium Guard filters are better than Mann filters, and NAPA Gold is the creme of the PG crop because NAPA required PG to use more filter material, create more pleats, and use a heavier/thicker can than the other PG filters. Also, PG filters have finer, more efficicient filtration than Mann filters.

There's many good threads explaining these things and providing evidence.

I'm going to use NAPA Gold. If overpressure causing filter bursting is a concern with Hyundai using some aftermarket filters, that concern IMO does not apply to NAPA Gold filters because they have thicker cans than Hyundai OEM filter.

Also, I think the overpressure concern is overblown anyway. A cheap no name quickie lube filter survived 5K miles with no problems on my neighbor's Hyundai Elantra 1.8L engine. I'm confident that a NAPA Gold will be fine.

 

[Carlostrece]

I think it got buried among other posts. Earlier in this thread in post 19 I posted that I think I've found a compatible 1.1" longer NAPA Gold filter. That's 41% longer.

Post in thread '2011 Hyundai Elantra 1.8L Engine Oil Filter - Want a longer oil filter.'

Yesterday at 4:43 AM

I think these are taller : https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-Extended-Performance-M1-104A-Oil-Filter/136966909

That M1 filter is longer and compatible.

Starting from your info, I cross referenced back to NAPA and found that for NAPA Gold: 1334 (what I have) & 1344 both cross reference as interchangeable with that Mobil 1 filter.

I checked the specs of the 1344 filter and I think everything is same (compatible) as 1334, except the 1344 is 1.1" longer!

My only concern is that NAPA does not publish bypass valve differential psi for either filter, but the filters do...

• Carlostrece

 

[oil pan 4]

Which Hyundai engine does your wifes car have?

My neighbor's Hyundai engine is 1.8L.

2L Nu engine

 

[dubber09]

You might be underthinking it.

There's many threads that explain and show why Prenium Guard filters are better than Mann filters, and NAPA Gold is the creme of the PG crop because NAPA required PG to use more filter material, create more pleats, and use a heavier/thicker can than the other PG filters. Also, PG filters have finer, more efficicient filtration than Mann filters.

There's many good threads explaining these things and providing evidence.

I'm going to use NAPA Gold. If overpressure causing filter bursting is a concern with Hyundai using some aftermarket filters, that concern IMO does not apply to NAPA Gold filters because they have thicker cans than Hyundai OEM filter.

Also, I think the overpressure concern is overblown anyway. A cheap no name quickie lube filter survived 5K miles with no problems on my neighbor's Hyundai Elantra 1.8L engine. I'm confident that a NAPA Gold will be fine.

I'd like to see direct comparison of the filters then including bypass valve values and not just visual comparison but proper test data. Mann filters worked for my cars so far, one is at about 110k miles and the other at about 120k miles now.

 

[ZeeOSix]

The bypass valve setting have as much to do with the filter as it does for the worse case application for the big group of vehicles that one filter is specified for. Example, there's a filter that the manufacturer specifies for 50 different engines, yet the filter bypass valve works with them all. And also, take 10 different brand oil filters all specified for the same engine, yet they don't all have the same bypass valve setting, because it's been set based more on the filter than the engine it goes on.

 

[Carlostrece]

I call NAPA support and went to NAPA store to compare NAPA Gold 1334 & 1344 filters.

The 1334 is made by Premium Guard and is excellent, though small, but it's what NAPA recommends for Hyundai 1.8L engine. Filtration is 23 microns @ 99%. Valve and gasket are pink silicone.

The 1344 is made by Baldwin/Parker. It's well made, but only filters 40 microns @ 50%. It has black nitrile rubber valve and gasket. So not as good a filter.

So that settles it. I'll continue using NAPA Gold 1334 filter for Hyundai. I the NAPA Gold 1334 oil filter is the best for Hyundai 1.8L engines. It has finer filtration and a thicker can than a Mann OEM filter. It's also more convenient to obtain locally.

 

[ZeeOSix]

The 1344 is made by Baldwin/Parker. It's well made, but only filters 40 microns @ 50%.

Is that a misprint? I'd expect something like 99% @ 40u or 50% @ 20u.

 

[53' Stude]

You do not need a Longer Oil Filter, use Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 and make sure your Air Filter is clean. If your Air Filter is not clean, change it.

Exactly! No use trying to use longer filter wjen it’s NOT spec’d for his vehicle. That’s just stupid

 

[Carlostrece]

Is that a misprint? I'd expect something like 99% @ 40u or 50% @ 20u.

Yes. A typo. Sorry.

The NAPA Gold 1344 (made by Baldwin) is 18 Nominal; 40 Absolute. I think that means 40 microns @ 99%.

I'm going to continue using NAPA Gold 1334 (made by Premium Guard) which is 23 microns @ 99%.

 

[Carlostrece]

Exactly! No use trying to use longer filter wjen it’s NOT spec’d for his vehicle. That’s just stupid

Baldwin's website used to specify when there was a longer compatible filter available for a vehicle. Forums that are specific to vehicle type usually know the model number of compatible longer filter, if one is available.

For many years I belonged to a large Jeep club. Myself and every Jeep 4L owner I've known used extra long filter. I no longer recall the Wix or Baldwin part number for a long filter, but any forum for Jeep Wrangler TJ, LJ, or Cherokee XJ could tell you off the top of their head.

Likewise with forums for Buick and Oldsmobile that use Buick 3800 S2 engine (probably also S1 & S3). I can tell you right now off the top of my head 3 brands and part #s of compatible long filters for my Buick 3800 S2: Baldwin B35-S, NAPA Gold 1036, or Microgard Select MSL51036.

Using a longer filter is not stupid. It's a great filter capacity upgrade for $1 more.

However, for Hyundai 1.8L I've determined that there's only 1 compatible longer filter, but it doesn't filter as fine. So not a good option.

So I will be staying with standard size filter in NAPA Gold for the Hyundai 1.8L because for that vehicle it is the best option.

It was not stupid of me to inquire and research the topic for the Hyundai 1.8L. You shouldn't be throwing around the word stupid like that.