The Honda Oil Filter Thread

[Hohn]

One luxury afforded by Honda's long-time use of the same filter fitment for almost all their engines is that it allows a more in-depth examination of the many different filters that fit. Since 1999, only the S2000 and Acura NSX have used filters other than the common xx7317(Fram)/xx14610(PL)/xx51356(Wix). The NSX used an M22 filter interface that has never been used on a Honda product since. It is out of scope for all subsequent discussion.

I'm hoping this thread can be sort of a "one stop shop" for reference information and will be bumped or updated as the zeitgeist of filters changes. I'll begin by sharing the notes for what I've collected in my research thus far of Honda-compatible filters. Then I'm hoping we will add links to other BITOG posts on Honda oil filters. Plus pics and C&Ps of used and virgin Honda-compatible filters.

The Honda filter interface is an M20x1.5 thread with a gasket OD of 63mm.

Duck Ryder's Excellent Honda OEM filter Thread.
The S2000 Wiki's excellent entry on S2000 filters.

HONDA OEM FILTERS

• 15400-PLM-A02: This is the current Honda OEM filter for all applications except the S2000. It's a low-grade Fram (EG/Drive, etc) 7317 paper-endcap filter in pretty blue paint. Better options exist.
• 15400-PLM-A01: obsoleted Honda OEM filter made by Filtech. You can still find these pretty easily. They are good quality metal endcap filters.
• H1540-PFB-525: Marketed by Honda AfterMarket Parts (HAMP). Shorty filter, made by Roki USA/Filtech
• H1540-PFB-515: Marketed by Honda AfterMarket Parts. Shorty Filter, Roki USA/Filtech, seems to be green version of PFB-525
• 15400-PT7-005: S2000 filter made by Fram Canada. Obsolete underperformer, do not use.
• 15400-PR3-014: S2000 OEM filter in Japan until 2003. Made in Japan by Toyo Roki. Obsoleted by 15400-PCX-004
• 15400-P0H-305: S2000 OEM filter in USA until 2003. Made in USA by Filtech. Obsoleted by 15400-PCX-004.
• 15400-PCX-004: Originally made in Japan by Toyo Roki Mfg. but now made in the U.S. by Filtech. It superseded the Honda #15400-P0H-305 in 2003.
• 15400-PCX-306: The current worldwide S2000 filter Made in Thailand by Mahle. Excellent quality, synthetic media.
• 15400-RTA-003: Made in Japan. This is basically the JDM version of the current blue can 15400-PLM-A02, but much higher quality (7317 size)
• H1540-RTA-03: This is the HAMP version of the 15400-RTA-003. Same filter, but this the can says both Made in Japan and Mahle on it. A very high quality Japanese-made filter.

Aftermarket Cross References Popular on BITOG-- Standard Size (not exhaustive)

• PENTIUS: follows Fram numbering, PL(XL)7317
• MICROGUARD: MSL/MGL 51356 (WIX numbering) but updated to 57356 (AKA Carquest Premium 84356 or Premium Gard 4612)
• FRAM: xx7317 (XG7317, TG7317, FF317, etc)
• WIX: 51356(xx)
• PUROLATOR: xxx14610 (note: new Wal-mart exclusive gold can uses the Fram 7317 number (LX7317), but it seems to be essentially a Boss PBL14610. Curiously, the BOSS advertised mileage dropped from 20,000 miles to 15,000 exactly at the same time as the WalMart Gold filters were introduced advertising 20,000 miles. I wonder if WMT demanded exclusivity on the 20k mile rated life, forcing Purolator to drop the BOSS down to 15k miles. You can find BOSS in both 20k mile and 15k mile labeling in identical models.
• NAPA: x7356
• K&N: HP1010
• Baldwin: B1402
• Hengst: H97W05
• Bosch: 3323
• Mann: W6103
• Motorcraft: FL816
• Delco: PF2057
• Mahle OC707
• Mobil 1: M1-110a
• Denso: 150-2006

Aftermarket Cross-Reference: S2000 size (Same thread and gasket, larger OD can; often fits non- S2000 Hondas, beware, not all fitments are an upgrade in restriction or media area!)

• WIX: 51334(xp)
• FRAM: xx6607
• MICROGARD Select MSL 51334 (follows WIX numbering)
• PUROLATOR: PBL14461 (BOSS); PL14459: The "boss" version of this can size is notably smaller than other s2000 fitments. It fits my Odyssey.
• FLEETGUARD LF3537
• M1-104(a)

Oversized M20x1.5 Filter options: (VERY few of these actually fit, the gaskets are oversized and cans are very large, but when they do, lucky you).

• Baldwin B1431 (4" tall 45 micron absolute basic paper media)
• Wix 51344 (4" tall, S2000 OD, but basic paper media)
• 1980s Jeep/AMC filters:
  • M1-204a,
  • Wix 51626
  • Fram 3985
  • Microgard Select MSL51626 (probably the most filter you can ever fit on a Honda)
    

 

[Hohn]

Some interesting pics of the "stubby" Honda filter guts. Note the large gap between pleats even though the pleats are pretty tight. This is a high-flow design IMO. (the stubby filters are intended to raise oil pressure for racing applications).

 

[Hohn]

WCW cuts a -004 S2000 filter: Media is ~ 136sq inches.

 

[BrendanC]

would also like to add:

atleast on 7th gen accords, Fram 9688 and 3593a fit. i run exclusively OG Fram Titanium FS3593a’s on both of my accords.

 

[Hohn]

Here's the latest S2000 filter's guts:

 

[Hohn]

would also like to add:

atleast on 7th gen accords, Fram 9688 and 3593a fit. i run exclusively OG Fram Titanium FS3593a’s on both of my accords.

I looked at 9688 Titaniums today next to a 7317 Titanium and the 9688 is slightly oversize but close enough in size that I wonder if there's any additional media like for like. The 9688 is definitely wider, but a bit shorter.

Is the 3593 bigger (taller) than the 9688?

I have a 10th gen Accord that I'm pretty sure will fit the S2000 filters, that's what I'm intending to run once the MicroGard on there now is done.

 

[BrendanC]

Is the 3593 bigger (taller) than the 9688

yes. here is a C&P

Thread 'OG Fram Titanium FS3593a C&P'

Oct 21, 2024

2005 Honda Accord 2.4L K24 400k-ish miles
in service 6100 miles

out/off: 4 quarts Valvoline R&P 5w-30 and 1 quart HPL EC30 with OG Fram Titanium FS3593a.

in/on: 5 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-40 and OG wire backed Fram Titanium FS3593a.

king of filters. this engine went through about 5 quarts of makeup oil in this interval…. usage began to taper off towards the end. top up was always HPL PCEO 5w-30 or M1 0w-40. hoping the 40w will burn a little less. Media is currently wicking dry.

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• BrendanC
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Thread 'OG Fram Titanium FS3593a C&P'

Aug 4, 2024

the woman’s accord
2003 Honda accord 2.4L K24 185K miles
FCi 8k-ish miles, OCI 11k miles

out/off: 5 quarts mixture of HPL PCEO 5w-30 and 5w-40 with OG Titanium FS3593a

in/on: 5 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-30 with OG wire backed Fram Titanium FS3593a

media is drying but looks quite loaded from first glance. i will update in a few days.

• BrendanC
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• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

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[Sayjac]

In my experience and observation with Honda applications there's negligible if any advantage to running the shorter but somewhat wider 9688 and equivalent application in place of the 7317. That, and many/most recent generation Hondas have oil pan or engine block restriction that prevent of use of such. So even where I might be able to screw on the former on a Honda I maintain, I stay with the 7317 application size. Plenty of media and holding capacity. And with folks here who regularly maintain their Hondas, the latter an insignificant consideration.

Thanks for c&p. Kinda reinforces and adds to DuckRyder's excellent thread year ago.

 

[Hohn]

I think I’d agree with that, Sayjac.

Just eyeballing the 9688 Titaniums today side by side with the 7317s (as I was buying out all the local 7317 stash), I didn’t see how the 9688 could really have much more area since it’s quite a bit shorter and the leaf spring tends to further shorten the length available inside for the media. Short cans can have 2” or less of actual media length (axial).

I think one exception might be the S2000 filter that’s powder blue and made by Mahle. For one thing, it’s significantly taller than most of the 9688-style filters that will cross reference to it. I’ll post some pics of what I mean.

There’s lots of variation in height of 3593a-size filters.

 

[Hohn]

 

[BrendanC]

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too bad that fleetguard is only 95% at 30um

 

[Hohn]

You can see from the pics above that the Pentius 3593a is notably shorter than the s2000 filter. The higher height square end of the s2000 is important for a leaf spring design to preserve some media length.

 

[Hohn]

too bad that fleetguard is only 95% at 30um

Actually 24.6 micron. Not the best around but I’m betting it flows well given that flow rating.

Edit to add: the bypass spec shown is a typo. It’s not 517kPa, it’s 51.7kPa, or right around 7 psi.

 

[Bill7]

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[ZeeOSix]

Actually 24.6 micron. Not the best around but I’m betting it flows well given that flow rating.

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Edit to add: the bypass spec shown is a typo. It’s not 517kPa, it’s 51.7kPa, or right around 7 psi.

The media better have low dP vs flow (ie, "flows well") with a bypass valve set that low. Burst pressure seems lower than most spin-ons.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I looked at 9688 Titaniums today next to a 7317 Titanium ...

Did you see any wire-backed media on them when looking down the center tube? Holes or louvers on the center tube? I thought most OG Titanium models were long gone off the store shelves by now.

 

[Hohn]

The media better have low dP vs flow (ie, "flows well") with a bypass valve set that low. Burst pressure seems lower than most spin-ons.

I’m sure it does have a low dP. But I’ll ask.

 

[Hohn]

Did you see any wire-backed media on them when looking down the center tube? Holes or louvers on the center tube? I thought most OG Titanium models were long gone off the store shelves by now.

I can’t really tell if it’s wire backed through the louvers.

A41773?

 

[ZeeOSix]

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I can’t really tell if it’s wire backed through the louvers.

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A41773?

Might be able to see wire through louvers with strong light and at the right angle. Date code is made 177th day of 2024. Sticky thread at top of this forum shows how to read date codes.

 

[Hall]

For those of us wanting to use a Super Tech filter occasionally, they discontinued the ST7317 and recommend the much smaller ST6607.

I wish there was a bigger filter made by Super Tech that would fit a Honda Odyssey?

At times I think about this and think it matters, but I doubt it does.... Nissan uses a 6607 on every engine unless it's in an SUV, truck, or van and that's obviously only for space/clearance reasons (same engine in a car uses a 6607, but in an SUV it uses a 7317). Last time I needed a Honda filter, I went to Walmart and discovered like you that they got rid of their 7317 and have substituted the 6607. I bought the 6607, used it, and it will be fine....