As an alternative to the discontinued Supertech 7317, Amazon carries the Luberfiner PH2867 made by Champion Labs, for $4.15.
The Honda Oil Filter Thread
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Smaller 6607 if fine, just change it perhaps a bit earlier.
Since I had the endoscope out:
Fleet guard:
Fram Endurance (dark blue can, orange letters):
Ultra Syn:
BOSS:
Fleet guard:
Fram Endurance (dark blue can, orange letters):
Ultra Syn:
BOSS:
On second thought, I’m convinced that a smaller filter using superior media beats a larger filter using cheap media every time.
So don’t be afraid to run a 6607 or even a stubby Subaru filter if that’s what it takes to get the better media. In other words, a 6607 titanium beats a bottom line orange 7317.
The worst case is just that the smaller filter goes into bypass sooner. And with the 20K mile filters, that very unlikely when you’re only going 5k or 10K.
Congrats on finding what looks to be an OG media Titanium. I'm surprised and can't imagine many of those left in the 7317 application.
As for 6607 vs 7317, without comparing media types, I'd always choose the 7317 over the shorty 6607. Using the latter is a common quick lube move that I'm not keen on.
To add to my last comment, if I owned a Honda calling for the 9688 application, I'd likely use it but wouldn't feel badly about using the 7317 either. I'm familiar with 2001 Civic which was the first year Honda went to the 7317 application on that model from the 9688. Dealer used the latter for a while until the 7317 size became more available.
As for 6607 vs 7317, without comparing media types, I'd always choose the 7317 over the shorty 6607. Using the latter is a common quick lube move that I'm not keen on.
To add to my last comment, if I owned a Honda calling for the 9688 application, I'd likely use it but wouldn't feel badly about using the 7317 either. I'm familiar with 2001 Civic which was the first year Honda went to the 7317 application on that model from the 9688. Dealer used the latter for a while until the 7317 size became more available.
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I would also choose 7317 over 6607. But I'm suggesting that the larger can might not be worth giving up better media if it came down to having to choose between them.
For example, FF7317 vs FS6607, I'm choosing the latter every time. I'd rather have great media in slightly smaller quantity.
I'll be following this thread. I've used a plethora of different filters in my Civic over the years, and ignorance is bliss, because if there have been any bad ones, I'm ignorant to that.
My most commonly used filter is the Fram XG7317. Less than $8 on Amazon, subscribe and save.
Bought a Premium Guard, and it's a small form factor. I also have an older Bosch (made in USA) ready to go in next.
In the end, I doubt it makes much difference. Same for oil used. Just keep everything reasonably clean, and the engine will last as long as the engine will last. We can't skew that much.
My most commonly used filter is the Fram XG7317. Less than $8 on Amazon, subscribe and save.
Bought a Premium Guard, and it's a small form factor. I also have an older Bosch (made in USA) ready to go in next.
In the end, I doubt it makes much difference. Same for oil used. Just keep everything reasonably clean, and the engine will last as long as the engine will last. We can't skew that much.
Also add:
15400-RBA-F01 Honda OEM filter for Europe, made by Purflux
Purflux LS350, made in France, has the wavy chevron pleats
Full 2-OHD004, made in Thailand, M-shaped pleats, no longer sold in the US but still available in Canada
15400-RBA-F01 Honda OEM filter for Europe, made by Purflux
Purflux LS350, made in France, has the wavy chevron pleats
Full 2-OHD004, made in Thailand, M-shaped pleats, no longer sold in the US but still available in Canada
I've got one of those scheduled for teardown. More details on my thread:
I understood your point. But 'practically speaking', I can't see myself in the situation where I would have to make that choice. Since I diy and choose my filters for Honda, if the 7317 application not offered, I'd choose another brand. And since my first Honda purchase, what I've done.
As for your example, I don't expect the Titanium in 6607 if it still is, will be available in OG Ultra media for long. And I wouldn't purchase a Fram Force filter ever. Generally speaking, I find the AAP versions of the Fram filters, overpriced. Likely, would only purchase if part of an extraordinary oil and filter "bundle" promo. Prefer to choose my own filter and oil separately.
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Other than some NOS -A01 OEM filter, are there are any current production Filtech filters in the 7317 size that are widely available?
The Made in Japan filters are Mahle/Tennex and the Bosch 3323 is PL moved to Mexico and not so good.
The Made in Japan filters are Mahle/Tennex and the Bosch 3323 is PL moved to Mexico and not so good.
Your right the Bosch filters may have a decent micron rating but the sloppy glue is a big no for me to ever consider them .
- 15400-PLM-A01: obsoleted Honda OEM filter made by Filtech. You can still find these pretty easily. They are good quality metal endcap filters.
Maybe fakes?
Are those the longer 7317 size or the short / square 6607? The Full web catalog is not great for filter finding and info.
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Okay, that looks like the longer 7317 size. Full seems to have many different numbers for this size. How to find them all?
https://www.fullfilterparts.com/catalog/oilfilter/1-ohd331
It does indeed seem they are hard to find, and that the info I pasted in was old.
Filtech/Roki made filters in general now seem hard to find. I still haven't been able to figure out what it out there now that's essentially a Roki made clone of the A01. You'd think Roki/filtech is still making filters, but it's as of losing the Honda business put them out of business. Honda OEMs are now Fram FF7317 (USA) Purflux LS350 (Europe) or Mahle/Tennex (Japan/australasia)
The HAMP and JDM OEM filter are now Mahle/Tennex (-RTA-003).
Is Roki/filtech even making oil filters for hondas? I really liked their filter design, super space-efficient and impressive use of media space.
Any documentation on the idea that stubby filters raise oil pressure in racing applications?