Microgard Select vs Wix at Oreilly

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I agree with the Parts sales rep. WIX has higher tier filters than Microgard. WIX XP for example.
"Higher Tier" would mean mileage duration & construction. The WIX XP uses more synthetic media to go further. Your not going 20k on a Microgard unless using it on a Toyota. Efficiency should be better on the Microgard based on their claims.
You're incorrect, I never said it was "Top Tier". 🙃
Yeah, being second from the bottom is still "higher tier" than the worst. 😄 But it's obvious that you think the XP is some high tier filter. Sucked in like the others perhaps? ;)
 
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Didn't they drop the full synthetic media on the XP ?





Looks almost like an Asian filter, pretty good.
No polymer backing overrules Made in Vietnam to me. I would rather use toilet paper.
Wait, those keep oil clean somehow with 90% of the oil leaking past the filter. Must be magic.
 
Yeah, being second from the bottom is still "higher tier" than the worst. 😄 But it's obvious that you think the XP is some high tier filter. Sucked in like the others perhaps? ;)

Look, for most consumers WIX XP is perceived as a premium filter in the filter market. Has nothing to do with my personal opinion.

Sucked into what?

My personal opinion is this filter has been cheapened lately and I'd not run it for 20k. 😛
 
The WIX XP has more advanced media than a Microgard regardless of efficiency.
How is the Wix XP media "more advanced" now that it's just plain old cellulose blend like in 95% of the filters on the market that M+H is now using on them? Maybe the efficiency is now better with the less advanced media (?) ... seems it's now just a Purolator in a Wix XP can. How was it even "more advanced" when it was mesh backed media if it had low efficiency?
 
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Sucked into what?
Sucked into the hype that the XP is a "higher tier" filter (your claim) than say a MicroGard Select that has much higher efficiency. Just because of the up to mileage rating, which is only half the performance story.
 
Sucked into the hype that the XP is a "higher tier" filter (your claim) than say a MicroGard Select that has much higher efficiency. Just because of the up to mileage rating, which is only half the performance story.

Again, the general consumer is going to choose service interval over efficiency.

WIX efficiency is proprietary as you stated so all of a sudden you know WIX XP efficiency?
 
Again, the general consumer is going to choose service interval over efficiency.
The uniformed are fooled ... goes for many things these days.

WIX efficiency is proprietary as you stated so all of a sudden you know WIX XP efficiency?
There has been many discussions about the Wix XP efficiency in the past. Look at Ascent's ISO testing results ... 60% @ 20, not far off from what Wix use to claim the XP efficiency to be 50% @ 20u before they made it "proprietary". It was even published on the Wix website at one time, but now nothing. Now that it seems the XP is just a M+H Purolator in a Wix can, maybe the efficiency is better? Can't know for sure because Wix won't tell anyone what the XP efficiency is ... top secret "propitiatory", lol. Call the Wix Tech Line and see what they'll tell you now.
 
Title of this thread: "Microgard Select vs Wix at Oreilly". 😄 Besides, you got this ball rolling.
Nope, just simply provided my opinion like everyone else in which you want to talk to me about WIX efficiencies, that you ultimately don't know. Get me some current spec sheets if you want to talk to me about WIX XP efficiencies. ;)
 
Mark up the Microgard Select to $15.99 and there’s your top tier filter!!

Sad when all the 20k+ filters have the most problems.
 
Lol fantastic, you have been arguing for Wix XP over Microguard Select through this whole thread. Whether it's most people's opinion or your's doesn't matter, you are pushing the false perception Wix is top tier. MGS has proven to be a great filter both in build quality and efficiency, Wix has been proven to be very poor efficiency.
 
Lol fantastic, you have been arguing for Wix XP over Microguard Select through this whole thread. Whether it's most people's opinion or your's doesn't matter, you are pushing the false perception Wix is top tier. MGS has proven to be a great filter both in build quality and efficiency, Wix has been proven to be very poor efficiency.
No, Your misunderstanding my position. I've simply stated that most consumers would consider it the more premium option. I agreed with that. I'm not "arguing" WIX XP over Microgard for the Bitog crowd. You must be new here b/c I've, personally, pushed Microgard filters 10 times out of 10 times vs a WIX XP. I'd buy a Microgard personally. Especially knowing the WIX XP media & reinforced media has taken a hit.
 
Nope, just simply provided my opinion like everyone else in which you want to talk to me about WIX efficiencies, that you ultimately don't know. Get me some current spec sheets if you want to talk to me about WIX XP efficiencies. ;)
Here we go with the "Spec Sheets" excuse, lol. If you are so confident "in your opinion" that the XP is some high efficiency "higher tier" filter now, then you prove it since you claim it's "higher tier" ... but that was just based on its construction and "up to" use mileage rating, which is contradictory to what a long OCI filter should be in terms of efficiency. It probably no higher tier than a Classic Purolator in a Wix XP can now ... but that might actually be better than 50% @ 20u. 😀
 
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No, Your misunderstanding my position. I've simply stated that most consumers would consider it the more premium option. I agreed with that. I'm not "arguing" WIX XP over Microgard for the Bitog crowd.
You literally said this in post 7:
"I agree with the Parts sales rep. WIX has higher tier filters than Microgard. WIX XP for example."

"Micogard" includes all models, including the Select. If you don't mean that the Wix XP is a higher tier filter than any MicroGard including the Select, then which Wix are you talking about?

You must be new here b/c I've, personally, pushed Microgard filters 10 times out of 10 times vs a WIX XP. I'd buy a Microgard personally. Especially knowing the WIX XP media & reinforced media has taken a hit.
Then why did you say what you did in post 7 which kicked off the whole XP vs Microgard debate ... the very title of this thread?
 
Maybe manager thinks like this is important. I can see it, especially if he is older or more cautious. All we need is another expanding industrial base that is a copy of China. It looks like in 1986 Vietnam was not doing well so copied China and their way of capitalizing on the west. Like a mini China. We’re talking 100,000s of oil filters not made in the USA. It counts. Ok off the soapbox and that’s it. Finally, some say.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam
 
The Wix website doesn't mention mesh backed media anymore, and it sounds like just a cellulose blend media now, like shown in the YT videos in this thread ... most likely a M+H cheapening move. And it's still rated for up to 20,000 miles ... humm. And just like before, there is zero mention of the efficiency with an associate micron size - the Wix look-up specs also still show zero efficiency info. You'd think if it was now better than 50-60% @ 20u they would update their website to show what it actually is.

Maybe M+H has "Spec Sheets" for them now too ... but the M+H Pres has put out a company wide memo saying "No Spec Sheets for dudes in the USA anymore !!" 😀

https://www.wixfilters.com/en-us/pr...ght-truck/oil-filters/wix-xp-oil-filters.html
 
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