Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by fdcg27
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by fdcg27
It may be that these Euros are looking at the trees but not seeing the forest and many here are the same in their thinking.
We have many engines here for which 0W-20 is the recommended grade.
They run many miles on this grade without issues.
Prior to this, low HTHS 5W-20 and 5W-30 grades were the norm for decades here.
Guess what?
The engines did just fine on these fuel efficient oils.
Speed?
If the average German really wants to experience higher speeds for more than a few miles at a time and not in the dead of night, then they should visit West Texas or Montana. Plenty of wide open spaces with few interruptions.
Problem are third world country roads, not open space.
Not sure what you're trying to convey here.
Did you mean to imply that the EU has roads in the sticks that are third world, to use your no longer current term?
The interstates through West Texas and Montana, the two states that I cited, are on a par with anything you'll find anywhere in Europe for more than a few miles or kilometers and they are very lightly trafficked, especially in Montana.
Get out a bit in this country and you'll see what I mean.
Lots of pristine interstate miles in flyover country where you can run really fast for hours on end.
I go to Montana often and was twice in West TX this year. Quality wise they are FAR BEHIND anything in the EU. I am talking about quality of roads, not whether one can drive for hours fast.
On US roads, if I am driving really fast, I want first to have absolute knowledge of every inch of that road (I am talking about illegal speeds, not 85-90mph. That is not fast). In EU, and even countries outside EU, low quality autobahn style roads are exception, not a rule.
American interstate system is still where German was when Ike rolled his tanks and copy/pasted it here.
I have never driven in west Texas but I have driven all over the western US, including Montana, and all over southern Central Europe. Italy, Switzerland, Slovenia, Croatia, etc. The roads in Europe are basically glass. You can drive for days before finding a pothole.
Originally Posted by fdcg27
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by fdcg27
It may be that these Euros are looking at the trees but not seeing the forest and many here are the same in their thinking.
We have many engines here for which 0W-20 is the recommended grade.
They run many miles on this grade without issues.
Prior to this, low HTHS 5W-20 and 5W-30 grades were the norm for decades here.
Guess what?
The engines did just fine on these fuel efficient oils.
Speed?
If the average German really wants to experience higher speeds for more than a few miles at a time and not in the dead of night, then they should visit West Texas or Montana. Plenty of wide open spaces with few interruptions.
Problem are third world country roads, not open space.
Not sure what you're trying to convey here.
Did you mean to imply that the EU has roads in the sticks that are third world, to use your no longer current term?
The interstates through West Texas and Montana, the two states that I cited, are on a par with anything you'll find anywhere in Europe for more than a few miles or kilometers and they are very lightly trafficked, especially in Montana.
Get out a bit in this country and you'll see what I mean.
Lots of pristine interstate miles in flyover country where you can run really fast for hours on end.
I go to Montana often and was twice in West TX this year. Quality wise they are FAR BEHIND anything in the EU. I am talking about quality of roads, not whether one can drive for hours fast.
On US roads, if I am driving really fast, I want first to have absolute knowledge of every inch of that road (I am talking about illegal speeds, not 85-90mph. That is not fast). In EU, and even countries outside EU, low quality autobahn style roads are exception, not a rule.
American interstate system is still where German was when Ike rolled his tanks and copy/pasted it here.
I have never driven in west Texas but I have driven all over the western US, including Montana, and all over southern Central Europe. Italy, Switzerland, Slovenia, Croatia, etc. The roads in Europe are basically glass. You can drive for days before finding a pothole.