YouTube - I'm out...

No, there isn't.
Also, there isn't any mention that the use of ad blockers isn't allowed.
Is there anything in the YouTube TOS that specifically says that a site visitor and non-subscriber who views YouTube content is required to view all advertising presented to them?

Genuinely curious.
Yes.

“The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are not allowed to: …circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage with, or otherwise interfere with any part of the Service (or attempt to do any of these things)…”

Blocking ads can be interpreted as circumventing or disabling part of their “service”
 
And a Roku player 🤗
I wouldn’t give Google the right time of day never mind a penny of my money.

Perhaps you should take a closer look at how Roku makes money (hint--hardware sales are a small, and shrinking portion of their revenues). Same game, different player (no pun intended).

Actually I was pointing out that it's more than likely hypocritical for you to try and climb the moral high ground here.

Ads are a menace, they should be blocked by default. If you want to support individual sites then take the trouble to unblock on a site per site basis, or pay, but don't start talking about how you were raised to be a perfect human because I guarantee you are not one of those, none of us are.

No saints on the internet.

I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that before South Dakota vs. Wayfair changed the landscape, few declared and remitted their use taxes on online purchases in the states that had such laws.

As with YT, the question was never one of legality, but enforcement of the existing terms, as they're actively pursuing now, as did the states after that case.

Personally, I'd have more sympathy for the online ad industry if it didn't come to feel entitled that every user should be profiled, and every bit of data possible was collected, for both individual and aggregate usage to help target ads.

Consider how creepy it would be if, instead of just seeing billboards, and other display ads, those ad companies had people following you around and peeking over your shoulder at where you go, what you look at, buy, etc. in real life. Would anyone sign up or agree to that? Yet the ad industry has argued that it has somehow become their inalienable right to do so in the online context.
 
Is it really a service if they only want to serve themselves?

This goes for every business, you gotta actually help the customers with your service for me to count it as a service
 
Perhaps you should take a closer look at how Roku makes money (hint--hardware sales are a small, and shrinking portion of their revenues). Same game, different player (no pun intended).
Even if you’re just referring to using the Roku channel which we don’t and only using the Roku player, Roku doesn’t know who’s watching or using the player..
Most people watching YouTube have an account and everything can be tied together right into your email. Which is tied into everything else.

It’s foolish to suggest, avoiding as much as possible everything Google is fruitless everyone else is just as bad and there’s no sense trying to protect your privacy. A Roku player is not person specific
 
For anyone who thinks YouTuber's don't make much money, can you imagine if it was a channel that is putting out 1 to 3 videos a day (some do) and have a million+ subscribers? This gal had just started out, and in a year made a relatively large amount of money with a tiny channel and making only a few videos a month - no wonder everyone wants to be a YT creator, and YT has become what it is. Reference my Post #132. Obviously, YouTube tries to use ad revenue to pay creators and therefore wants everyone to watch ads, but maybe they are paying them a bit much.

 
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Were people this up in arms about ads with commercials on TVs too?
 
I never watched tv (unless you count Disney Plus on a laptop) YouTube was better

I still listen to fm radio, free Spotify has worse ads than the radio does
 
Yes, why do you think streaming is so popular and nobody listens to FM radio anymore?

Well that's the thing. Commercials always sucked whether it be for FM, AM, and normal TV; especially on public TV. Commercials were always around in public TV. It should be no surprise once society moved onto online streaming and YT videos, commercials are present for free accounts.

I never had cable TV so I have no idea if commercials were still on for special paid/PPV channels.
 
I never had cable TV so I have no idea if commercials were still on for special paid/PPV channels.
Way back, HBO use to fill in time between shows with the jazzersize gals ... which was worth watching. 😄
 
Well that's the thing. Commercials always sucked whether it be for FM, AM, and normal TV; especially on public TV. Commercials were always around in public TV. It should be no surprise once society moved onto online streaming and YT videos, commercials are present for free accounts.

Back in the day we used to record TV shows onto the VHS (or Betamax) VCR, then watch them later. We always fast-forwarded through the commercials, and later VCRs even offered a "commercial skip" that would automatically fast-forward in 30 second increments.
 
Back in the day we used to record TV shows onto the VHS (or Betamax) VCR, then watch them later. We always fast-forwarded through the commercials, and later VCRs even offered a "commercial skip" that would automatically fast-forward in 30 second increments.
I still TiVo all sorts of things from OTA broadcast and skip the ads. Is this not a thing anymore? Dang, I guess I'll have to throw it out. /s/
 
I still TiVo all sorts of things from OTA broadcast and skip the ads. Is this not a thing anymore? Dang, I guess I'll have to throw it out. /s/

By the time the TIVO came out I largely had stopped watching OTA stuff. I thought about putting a tuner card into a Linux box and making a DVR out of it, but never got around to it.
 
By the time the TIVO came out I largely had stopped watching OTA stuff. I thought about putting a tuner card into a Linux box and making a DVR out of it, but never got around to it.
Wow, you were streaming on Linux in 2002 when the TiVo v2 came out? Most people were still on dialup back then.
 
Even if you’re just referring to using the Roku channel which we don’t and only using the Roku player, Roku doesn’t know who’s watching or using the player..
Most people watching YouTube have an account and everything can be tied together right into your email. Which is tied into everything else.

It’s foolish to suggest, avoiding as much as possible everything Google is fruitless everyone else is just as bad and there’s no sense trying to protect your privacy. A Roku player is not person specific
But you have to have an account with Roku in order to use one of their devices and their service. So they may not know what movies you're watching on Disney+ or MAX but they do know that someone in your household is watching those channels. And in the case of the Roku Channel in your example, I'm sure they know what you're watching. Being person-specific isn't really the point.

All that said, it's not like someone's sitting at Roku headquarters and actively looking at what you're watching. It's just data being logged. But that data is valuable to certain companies.
 
Back in the day we used to record TV shows onto the VHS (or Betamax) VCR, then watch them later. We always fast-forwarded through the commercials, and later VCRs even offered a "commercial skip" that would automatically fast-forward in 30 second increments.
Yep. Don't you older guys remember how angry all the broadcast stations were when VCRs hit the market in the early 80's?

"But now everyone can just fast-forward through the commercials! That's not right!"

Yeah, sorry, not sorry.
 
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