YouTube - I'm out...

[brianl703]

Ublock origin is still working to block youtube ads. You do need to update it frequently because Youtube keeps changing their ad block script.

https://drhyperion451.github.io/does-uBO-bypass-yt/

 

[Hermann]

We're well beyond that point. Ad blockers are a good thing to use from a security standpoint, and ads are heavily abused by organizations to track you or do other malicious activity. You may as well ask if door locks on your house means you're against helping the poor people feed themselves because they can no longer reach into your fridge whenever they want.

In my final statement on this, I was raised to not cheat or steal. In my conscience this is cheating/stealing. I you don't like the rules, don't play the game.

 

[hemioiler]

In my final statement on this, I was raised to not cheat or steal. In my conscience this is cheating/stealing. I you don't like the rules, don't play the game.

Not everything in this world is as black and white as you want it to be.

I hope you'll rethink your position when your password is stolen as you type it in.

 

[Hermann]

Not everything in this world is as black and white as you want it to be.

I hope you'll rethink your position when your password is stolen as you type it in.

R U stealing it. You steal YouTube so maybe it will be you.

 

[Hermann]

I wonder how the God fearing owners and moderators feel about this.

 

[hemioiler]

I wonder how the God fearing owners and moderators feel about this.

I'm not going to get in the weeds with you on this. Lets just say if you've ever driven 1 mph past the speed limit, you're now "guilty of breaking the law". If you ever recorded a song from the radio onto a tape, you've broken the law and stolen from the producers/artist. If you've ever walked into a coffee shop and used the washroom but didn't have time to wait in line to order a coffee than you might have stolen from the coffee shop. Ever photocopied something somewhere etc etc.

Please don't think you're somehow above this in one way or the other.

If you insist on watching YT with ads, go for it, but I STRONGLY encourage you to run the blocker on other sites. This is part of IT safety, like using different passwords on different sites, using and antivirus program etc.

 

[Pablo]

I wonder how the God fearing owners and moderators feel about this.

I see where you are coming from.

I really don't think the big guy sees this as stealing - but that's MY viewpoint, just the other side of viewpoint as you see it as stealing

 

[DuckRyder]

This should go about like the Photobucket thing....

It's an arms race with blockers too... and a lot of the time you can just close the window and go on.

I will not pay them, I will not watch adds in the middle and i will not buy anything that gets youtube added to me. I will intentionally buy the competition if i need if. There's really only one channel i care about anyway.

 

[Hermann]

I'm not going to get in the weeds with you on this. Lets just say if you've ever driven 1 mph past the speed limit, you're now "guilty of breaking the law". If you ever recorded a song from the radio onto a tape, you've broken the law and stolen from the producers/artist. If you've ever walked into a coffee shop and used the washroom but didn't have time to wait in line to order a coffee than you might have stolen from the coffee shop. Ever photocopied something somewhere etc etc.

Please don't think you're somehow above this in one way or the other.

If you insist on watching YT with ads, go for it, but I STRONGLY encourage you to run the blocker on other sites. This is part of IT safety, like using different passwords on different sites, using and antivirus program etc.

You totally missed that I don't watch the ads. I pay for the service

 

[brianl703]

Another option for watching Youtube videos without ads:

https://freetubeapp.io/

I tried this and it works great (for Windows, Mac, and Linux). You can't log into your youtube account with it, though. So you'd have to import your subscriptions into this app.

Otherwise, you can search for Youtube videos and play them. Can also save them to playlists and subscribe to the channel (the playlist subscription is stored locally on your computer).

 

[Hermann]

This should go about like the Photobucket thing....

It's an arms race with blockers too... and a lot of the time you can just close the window and go on.

I will not pay them, I will not watch adds in the middle and i will not buy anything that gets youtube added to me. I will intentionally buy the competition if i need if. There's really only one channel i care about anyway.

The dislike runs deep. Should everything in life be free?

 

[ZeeOSix]

If YouTube wants to make more money, they need to stop paying the big creators big money - if you do the research, you'd be shocked by how much some of these YT channels make - no wonder it's their only "career". When some of the car channel guys can purchase and give away $200K supercars for "content", you know it's "big business". YouTube started "demonetizing" creators for many reasons, and that was one way they're tying to make more profits.

 

[OVERKILL]

Some devices will disregard it and use their own, only falling back if their DNS of choice stops responding. My wife’s awful google home phones home directly to google despite me using Cloudflare DNS.

Yes, I covered this in my thread.

Our Sony TV, which runs Google TV, does this. I have all outbound DNS blocked except for CIRA, so they have to fall back to the DHCP obtained DNS servers.

 

[Bottom_Feeder]

Is there anything in the YouTube TOS that specifically says that a site visitor and non-subscriber who views YouTube content is required to view all advertising presented to them?

Genuinely curious.

 

[jeepman3071]

The dislike runs deep. Should everything in life be free?

If Youtube/Google wasn't a multi-billion dollar company known for selling people's data that it isn't always honest about how it obtains, I would feel completely different.

 

[hemioiler]

You totally missed that I don't watch the ads. I pay for the service

Actually I was pointing out that it's more than likely hypocritical for you to try and climb the moral high ground here.

Ads are a menace, they should be blocked by default. If you want to support individual sites then take the trouble to unblock on a site per site basis, or pay, but don't start talking about how you were raised to be a perfect human because I guarantee you are not one of those, none of us are.

 

[OVERKILL]

Actually I was pointing out that it's more than likely hypocritical for you to try and climb the moral high ground here.

Ads are a menace, they should be blocked by default. If you want to support individual sites then take the trouble to unblock on a site per site basis, or pay, but don't start talking about how you were raised to be a perfect human because I guarantee you are not one of those, none of us are.

Ads are also a security risk and Google is further trying to control the ad landscape with their recent "privacy" changes, which I made a thread about.

It is not rare for ad providers or ads to be hijacked and redirect to or even load malicious content. Not blocking ads isn't "virtuous", it's a risk.

 

[Rmay635703]

Ads are also a security risk and Google is further trying to control the ad landscape with their recent "privacy" changes, which I made a thread about.

It is not rare for ad providers or ads to be hijacked and redirect to or even load malicious content. Not blocking ads isn't "virtuous", it's a risk.

This is the primary problem but also should go directly to Google/Apple for liability.

Willful ignorance should cost them dearly

As an example any Apple “news story” in the app can direct to a 3rd party site which can slam your device into the App Store.

Worse you can’t use traditional methods to “clear” things loaded in the news app so if a bad file is dumped to your device good luck removing it via traditional means.

Both Apple and google know full well when crap is in their pipeline and they should be liable for it so they actually do something about it before 100,000 users get dumped on.

 

[wag123]

Is there anything in the YouTube TOS that specifically says that a site visitor and non-subscriber who views YouTube content is required to view all advertising presented to them?

No, there isn't.
Also, there isn't any mention that the use of ad blockers isn't allowed.

 

[Torrid]

I bailed on YouTube as well. I was a paying Premium member and I just can't support the way they're doing business. I almost unsubscribed when the last price increase happened. I cancelled 4 days ago and haven't visited the site since.