Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I just don't get the issue. Maybe I don't need to. It seems to me that any artists have their "vevo" channels which are hd official channels with music videos. Some artists also have official stuff but not vevo.
Is the issue here that one will need to start paying ,$10/mo to get that stuff,?
You have to understand ads are there to support the content creators. Google now seeing it now as a viable business, they also want that piece of the pie. Greed man.
Content creators are withdrawing there content because for each subscriber to youtube red, they will not gain as much money from because they won't get the advertising dollars. youtube is going a direction of offering a service to the public where you can avoid advertising, and you pay for the ad free content. they are still going to have the current advertiser content so the consumer is getting the same content as before, it's just the revenue streams are shifting more to the service provider rather than the content provider. is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Thinking of this business wise this is a bad idea for Japan/Kpop youtube channels to be region blocked because now they wont get the world views and sales, only limiting themselves. There are people like me that will listen and watch videos on youtube, discover new talent and groups and it will be where if I buy things because of that. For example I bought Albums for Exist Trace, Bump of Chicken, and Hatsune Miku just because of these channels they are limiting.
These blocks will limit my new discovery of good music, such as Goose House and other talents yet to be found.
No, the ads are there to support the content provider (YouTube/Google) and the content provider passes some of that revenue onto the content creators in order to encourage them to create content that results in higher viewing traffic. If you want your ad to show up at the beginning of an Exist Trace video, you contract with and pay Google, not Exist Trace, for that placement.
Why is it greedy for YouTube to want to monetize their service in a manner that increases their revenues but not greedy for content creators to want to keep the old system that better monetizes their service? You can't have it both ways. Especially because Goose House most likely makes more money from you purchasing an album and a t-shirt than they do from you viewing one of their YouTube videos 100 times.
And as far as regional blocks, that is nothing new with Web content. I doubt YouTube is excluding Japanese content because they don't like Japanese content, there are probably legalities that go along with it and as the YouTube Red model is expanded worldwide those blocks will likely fall.
And as far as someone's business getting in the way of you discovering new music from the other side of the globe, I am certain there are other services that make it just as easy, if not easier, to discover such new content. And if not, this is your chance to create that service and become the next tech billionaire.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I just don't get the issue. Maybe I don't need to. It seems to me that any artists have their "vevo" channels which are hd official channels with music videos. Some artists also have official stuff but not vevo.
Is the issue here that one will need to start paying ,$10/mo to get that stuff,?
You have to understand ads are there to support the content creators. Google now seeing it now as a viable business, they also want that piece of the pie. Greed man.
Content creators are withdrawing there content because for each subscriber to youtube red, they will not gain as much money from because they won't get the advertising dollars. youtube is going a direction of offering a service to the public where you can avoid advertising, and you pay for the ad free content. they are still going to have the current advertiser content so the consumer is getting the same content as before, it's just the revenue streams are shifting more to the service provider rather than the content provider. is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Thinking of this business wise this is a bad idea for Japan/Kpop youtube channels to be region blocked because now they wont get the world views and sales, only limiting themselves. There are people like me that will listen and watch videos on youtube, discover new talent and groups and it will be where if I buy things because of that. For example I bought Albums for Exist Trace, Bump of Chicken, and Hatsune Miku just because of these channels they are limiting.
These blocks will limit my new discovery of good music, such as Goose House and other talents yet to be found.
No, the ads are there to support the content provider (YouTube/Google) and the content provider passes some of that revenue onto the content creators in order to encourage them to create content that results in higher viewing traffic. If you want your ad to show up at the beginning of an Exist Trace video, you contract with and pay Google, not Exist Trace, for that placement.
Why is it greedy for YouTube to want to monetize their service in a manner that increases their revenues but not greedy for content creators to want to keep the old system that better monetizes their service? You can't have it both ways. Especially because Goose House most likely makes more money from you purchasing an album and a t-shirt than they do from you viewing one of their YouTube videos 100 times.
And as far as regional blocks, that is nothing new with Web content. I doubt YouTube is excluding Japanese content because they don't like Japanese content, there are probably legalities that go along with it and as the YouTube Red model is expanded worldwide those blocks will likely fall.
And as far as someone's business getting in the way of you discovering new music from the other side of the globe, I am certain there are other services that make it just as easy, if not easier, to discover such new content. And if not, this is your chance to create that service and become the next tech billionaire.
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