YouTube - I'm out...

All this effort of sketchy browsers, extensions and programs to avoid a few ads...when you can just subscribe to Premium and be done with it. I don't get it...
 
All this effort of sketchy browsers, extensions and programs to avoid a few ads...when you can just subscribe to Premium and be done with it. I don't get it...


I don’t get it…

But in a way I do get it…

This is a case where a number of differing thought processes can make sense.
 
OP you know the content creators are not charity, they are making a living from either product endorsement or ads right?

If I have a McD and have been handing out free ketchup to people who didn't order anything, but now I stopped and a kid told me he will never come by again because there's no more free ketchup, I probably wouldn't miss him much.
 
Do you really think they are after our boring old folks data, Mainly they focus on folks under 50. The scammers focus on us oldies.
They are, you are probably spending more than a broke teenager with no money anyways, so if they can steer your shopping behavior it is worth the money.
 
I have actually learned an incredible amount from YouTube. 20 minutes about some very old settlement on earth is not going to change lives, but does settle some curiosity I maybe had for 50 years

Besides love me some hecklefish
Let's see. I learned how to cook almost anything. My mom never taught me and she's not that great of a cook (she works just like my dad and she has to cook, so can't complain). I also learned how to repair a lot of stuff inside the house, career advice, financial education, etc from useful professionals.

For the idiot stuff there's always TikTok and Mindgeek.
 
Lots of folks won't pay for YT Premium but will pay $40 for a 1/2 pound steak dinner out. :unsure:
That argument makes zero sense.

I won't pay for Youtube premium because with an ad blocker I get the same experience for free. I pay $40 for a nice steak because I'm paying for an experience and a meal that I don't have to cook myself. I can't watch youtube with ads for the same reason I don't listen to FM radio anymore. It turns into one giant commercial.
 
Just wanted to add that I've never been able to block YouTube ads with a DNS blocker or router. It seems YouTube runs ads on the same domains that it uses for everything else. Blocking that would likely block YouTube entirely.

SmartTubeNext on Android TV looks interesting and I would try it if I watched a lot of YouTube.
 
i didn't use an ad blocker, until YouTube started doing 2 ads before every video and making 10+ second unskippable ads. then i got Malwarebytes browser guard, and then just today brave browser. if you give me 10 seconds of ads i'll watch them, but 20+ is too much
 
You guys need to check what the creators say about ads, ad revenue, how it all affects subscriptions, what options the creators have regarding ads, how they feel about the ads, and so on. Many creators actually prefer direct support via Patreon or similar over the little bit they get from pitching Google ads while potentially disenfranchising their viewers. Some YouTubers are actually minimizing ads and they allow only one ad at the beginning with no further interruptions. Not everybody on YouTube is using their videos as a monetization tool. For many, it's more about self-promotion and those channels often have fewer ads. There are of course many YouTubers who crank out content in an effort to monetize their efforts.
 
All routers are capable of defining the DNS servers that are used by everything on the network. As long as you are not using an ISP supplied router this is not difficult to set-up, just enter the DNS server IP addresses that you want to use. There are free ad-blocking DNS servers available like AdGuard DNS, but I don't know if this technique will work on Roku and I don't know if this will counteract the YouTube ads.
https://adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html
Some devices will disregard it and use their own, only falling back if their DNS of choice stops responding. My wife’s awful google home phones home directly to google despite me using Cloudflare DNS.
All this effort of sketchy browsers, extensions and programs to avoid a few ads...when you can just subscribe to Premium and be done with it. I don't get it...
People are just mad that YouTube needs to make money to pay their employees, the creators, and for ever more storage and other hardware (estimated at over 1 exabyte now, or 1,048,576Tb) and are clamping down. Using an adblocker has always been against the terms of agreement, much like sharing your password for other streaming services.

Do I run an adblocker or use 12ft.io to bypass adblocker blockers and other paywalls? Absolutely. Is it technically “stealing”? Also yes. I’m not against a few well placed ads that don’t pop up from the bottom of my screen and stay there permanently with a microscopic close button, or start playing some stupid video, or hijack the entire browser window, and until they go back to that the adblocker will stay.
 
At the end of the day, it comes down to, does your conscience feel ad blockers are cheating/stealing or not.
 
Some devices will disregard it and use their own, only falling back if their DNS of choice stops responding. My wife’s awful google home phones home directly to google despite me using Cloudflare DNS.

People are just mad that YouTube needs to make money to pay their employees, the creators, and for ever more storage and other hardware (estimated at over 1 exabyte now, or 1,048,576Tb) and are clamping down. Using an adblocker has always been against the terms of agreement, much like sharing your password for other streaming services.

Do I run an adblocker or use 12ft.io to bypass adblocker blockers and other paywalls? Absolutely. Is it technically “stealing”? Also yes. I’m not against a few well placed ads that don’t pop up from the bottom of my screen and stay there permanently with a microscopic close button, or start playing some stupid video, or hijack the entire browser window, and until they go back to that the adblocker will stay.
It isn't like YouTube isn't making money...
"Internet video giant YouTube larded its coffers with $7.95 billion in ad revenue for third quarter of 2023, representing a 12.5% year-over-year increase"
And, it isn't like Google isn't making money...
"Google parent company Alphabet on Tuesday reported quarterly sales of $76.69 billion, up 11% from the same period in the prior year. The company also posted profits of $19.69 billion for the quarter."
Furthermore, Google allows the use of ad blocker extensions on it's platform.
 
All this effort of sketchy browsers, extensions and programs to avoid a few ads...when you can just subscribe to Premium and be done with it. I don't get it...

Brave is not a sketchy browser. Clearly you haven't tried it. Even if you somehow think it's sketchy, why not only use it to watch YouTube videos?
 
All this effort of sketchy browsers, extensions and programs to avoid a few ads...when you can just subscribe to Premium and be done with it. I don't get it...

Do you not use an adblocker on the web? It's pretty much a security requirement these days, regardless of how you feel about YT I'd never browse a single webpage without ublock installed. Blocking YT ads is just a bonus.

I have never had a TV in my house, the few times I've watched in a hotel or something was a painful experience. The day I can no longer watch YT without ads is the day I no longer watch YT.

As mentioned already, content creators on YT don't "make money" from these ads, they run their own ads embedded right in the video (unskippable) or patreon (or only fans lol), so I'm not watching YT ads and then embedded ads in the video as well.

Google makes enough money off me tracking me, I pay for "google suite" for my business, I'm not giving them my time which I find most precious of all.
 
At the end of the day, it comes down to, does your conscience feel ad blockers are cheating/stealing or not.
As someone said, an ad at the beginning or end, you know is OK. But yeah like TV , 3 or 5 and dropping them in the middle.......

And you know what's coming?

Super premier for the big $

Then regular premier, you get "some ads"

And no, it's not illegal, cheating or stealing.
 
At the end of the day, it comes down to, does your conscience feel ad blockers are cheating/stealing or not.

We're well beyond that point. Ad blockers are a good thing to use from a security standpoint, and ads are heavily abused by organizations to track you or do other malicious activity. You may as well ask if door locks on your house means you're against helping the poor people feed themselves because they can no longer reach into your fridge whenever they want.
 
It isn't like YouTube isn't making money...
"Internet video giant YouTube larded its coffers with $7.95 billion in ad revenue for third quarter of 2023, representing a 12.5% year-over-year increase"
And, it isn't like Google isn't making money...
"Google parent company Alphabet on Tuesday reported quarterly sales of $76.69 billion, up 11% from the same period in the prior year. The company also posted profits of $19.69 billion for the quarter."
Furthermore, Google allows the use of ad blocker extensions on it's platform.
Yet the pop-up about blocking ads on youtube attempts to make it sound like you are "stealing" from creators. If creators are what make the platform, maybe Youtube should be giving them a bigger cut of the ad revenue.
 
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