Which Engine oil for Honda k20c1 Type r?

I think you misunderstood me. Here in Europe, the ACEA has priority over the API. This is due to the fact that the requirements for an ACEA specification are higher than the requirements for an API. We do not have a speed limit and sometimes drive longer oil intervals, so Honda prescribes an oil according to ACEA in Europe.
 
We had another discussion today about turbo direct injection engines. The majority of people thought it would be safer to use an oil according to API SP to avoid the danger of LSPI. Is this really such a problem because of the oil? So far, I thought that it is increasingly the fuel used, driving style and above all the design of the engine. How do you see that?
 
I ordered my oil today for my next service. I have now chosen esp x3 0W40. I think it meets the latest standards and is also tested on the racetrack. I will share my experiences.
 
Hi @all.
For the next Service i have ordered new spark plugs, Rowe Racing 10W40 Engine oil, Rowe Hightec 75w90 transmission fluid, a new oem Air filter. Next Season i need new tires, i think it will be Michelin Pilot Sport. What do you think?
I have only 25000 kilometres on my car, but the spark plugs will be 8 years Olaf. I think it is a good decision to Change them.
 
Spark plugs don’t really wear out based on age though. At only 25,000 km they are likely to be in very good shape. I have 241,000 km on my original spark plugs in my 2016 Civic! It’s just the base model with the 2.0 so it’s not hard on plugs but even with the type R you could easily wait until 50,000 km if not 100,000, especially if it’s completely stock.
 
CivicFK2TypeR said:
What do you say about the mobil 1 esp x3 0W40? It is often recommended here in the forum as very "useful". Is it more suitable for turbo engines due to midsaps than, for example, Mobil fs 0W40 or Rowe synthesis rs 5W40? I had read in another oil recommendation here that midsaps is only recommended because of the particulate filters in gasoline vehicles, is that true?

So far, I have almost always driven Rowe engine oil in all my cars, is there "better"? Ravenol or another brand that I can buy in Europe?
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Im have a FL5 CTR and Im curious as well.

Mobil 1 ESP 0W40 seems like a good choice but in live in the US South so 0W is complete overkill. I feel like 5W40 would be alot better. Motul 300v Competition 5W40 seems like a good option based off the VOA I saw.

I track the car so I would only be using the XX-40W oil in between street and track use.

I have been using Amsoil Signature Series 5W30 and the last report was good but I'm looking for something that has a higher cSt rating for better protection since these engines run hot and can get up to 265F for oil temperature on the track.(my report showed that it was 9.7 and the VOA shows 10.3)

I feel like the Amsoil 5W30 is completely fine for street use although I haven't used Blackstone so I don't know fuel dilution
 
blufeb95 said:
ESP 0W30, ESP 5W30, ESP X3 0W-40 they're all very close in specifications and manufacturer approvals, I'd use any of them pretty much interchangeably.
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Is there any problem with using something like Motul 300V Competition 5W40? I gave a CTR as well.

I feel like that would be better for track use than the ESP 0W40. I live in Florida so I feel like 5w40 would be better than 0W40. Am I wrong for thinking that? They don't make M1ESP in 5W40 otherwise Id get that.

Is there any problem with running oil with a higher cSt? Will the oil pump struggle?
 
Randomly Tired said:
Im have a FL5 CTR and Im curious as well.

Mobil 1 ESP 0W40 seems like a good choice but in live in the US South so 0W is complete overkill. I feel like 5W40 would be alot better. Motul 300v Competition 5W40 seems like a good option based off the VOA I saw.

I track the car so I would only be using the XX-40W oil in between street and track use.

I have been using Amsoil Signature Series 5W30 and the last report was good but I'm looking for something that has a higher cSt rating for better protection since these engines run hot and can get up to 265F for oil temperature on the track.(my report showed that it was 9.7 and the VOA shows 10.3)

I feel like the Amsoil 5W30 is completely fine for street use although I haven't used Blackstone so I don't know fuel dilution
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If you run that hot, I’d suggest M1 15w50 SP if you want M1 or the X2 FS 5w50 if you can handle the higher VI content.

HPL Supercar 10w50 is always the upgrade option.

On EDIT: check out the HTHS of the HPL oils vs the M1. The HPL 40 grades are nearly as high HTHS as the M1 50 grades. For example, the 15w50 M1 is about 4.5 HTHS and the 5w50 is only 4.3.

The HPL 15w40 PCMO is 4.2HTHS. And the 20w50 PMCO is a brute at 5.5 HTHS.
 
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CivicFK2TypeR said:
We are now driving the Mobil 1 C40 GT in our K20c1 in the Civic Type r FK8. In our Racing k20c1 we drive exclusively Rowe Racing engine oil.
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Any reason why you chose that over the M1 ESP - 0W40 X4, it seems like M1 ESP 0W40 X4, M1 C40 GT, or the M1 FS 5W-40?

Since I discovered the website I'm so far down the oil rabbit hole, every time I see an oil thats potential good I see a link on here of people saying that its bad
 
Yes, there is a reason. For me, the increased wear protection of the internal engine components is very important. The C40 GT engine oil is exclusively for Porsche GT engines, but we see good results in our engines with this oil, so we'll stick with it. However, the ESP X4 0W40 is also a very good oil.
 
Hohn said:
If you run that hot, I’d suggest M1 15w50 SP if you want M1 or the X2 FS 5w50 if you can handle the higher VI content.

HPL Supercar 10w50 is always the upgrade option.

On EDIT: check out the HTHS of the HPL oils vs the M1. The HPL 40 grades are nearly as high HTHS as the M1 50 grades. For example, the 15w50 M1 is about 4.5 HTHS and the 5w50 is only 4.3.

The HPL 15w40 PCMO is 4.2HTHS. And the 20w50 PMCO is a brute at 5.5 HTHS.
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I don't see the point in switching to a 15W motor oil. For us, the use of high-quality VI and the quality of the base oil used are more important than a pure SAE specification. Rowe Racing motor oils offer advantages in extreme conditions such as on the racetrack, including oil pressure, temperature, and, above all, wear. However, we change the oil more frequently. The engine oil is changed every 5,000 kilometers of pure racetrack use.
 
Can’t argue with success.

The point of the 15w is to lower VI content, but as you say, if there’s no downside to the VI content, there’s no value to the 15w.

Personally, for a track used engine, I’d ignore the first number entirely and choose by HTHS and whatever the UOA is saying.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
 
CivicFK2TypeR said:
Yes, there is a reason. For me, the increased wear protection of the internal engine components is very important. The C40 GT engine oil is exclusively for Porsche GT engines, but we see good results in our engines with this oil, so we'll stick with it. However, the ESP X4 0W40 is also a very good oil.
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Okay thanks. I'll consider the C40 GT. I'll do that and the try out thr ESP X4 0W40 and post the UOAs when I start doing track days in the late summer
 
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