What would your second oil choice if Mobil 1 EP not available at the time you need ?

I've read that TSUV is not doing well in the marketplace which is a shame as it seems to be a good oil that would be suited to a number of scenarios. Perhaps the name, Truck and SUV, is holding it back as it suggests a very specialized use.

Of course, as far as its place in the M1 lineup, it's competing with a number of established and well-regarded options. Seems like it may be a steep hill to climb ... dare I say Sisyphean?
I guess I better stock up a bit? I LOVE the 5w30 TSUV because of the AN content.
 
Castro Edge EP (Gold) at $26 for the 5 quart jug at WM (currently on Rollback) is a screaming deal at the moment IMO. It's rated for 25K OCI which I would never do.
 
Why EU oil so special ?
Because when you buy it you immediately develop finer taste for scotch etc. :)

There are numerous topics (hundreds, literally) about that topic. European manufacturers have far more stringent standards for oils. They have approvals, basically telling customer you need for example MB229.5 in your MB, get oil that is approved for that specification.
Due to demands of European engines, usually with high power density, very high internal temperatures to lower consumption and extract more power, longer OCI etc. Also, oils that are recommended have higher HTHS, which is what actually matters. those approvals are very demanding.
Take into consideration that in Europe they rarely sell HM oils. I personally never seen it. And those taxi MB’s still rack up million miles.
In European section you have all you need to know and more.
 
I was at Walmart looking for 5w30 Mobil 1 EP HM ( I like the HM version, I don’t know why I just feel it have more vitamin lol ) for my cobra . Look like they are out of 5w30 version. I went to 2 Walmart.

Castrol edge ? Or Valvoline Ultra max life ?

My cobra been on Mobil 1 since day 1.
for 5w30 I'd look at Castrol 5w30 Euro Car or Valvoline Restore and Protect.
 
Because when you buy it you immediately develop finer taste for scotch etc. :)

There are numerous topics (hundreds, literally) about that topic. European manufacturers have far more stringent standards for oils. They have approvals, basically telling customer you need for example MB229.5 in your MB, get oil that is approved for that specification.
Due to demands of European engines, usually with high power density, very high internal temperatures to lower consumption and extract more power, longer OCI etc. Also, oils that are recommended have higher HTHS, which is what actually matters. those approvals are very demanding.
Take into consideration that in Europe they rarely sell HM oils. I personally never seen it. And those taxi MB’s still rack up million miles.
In European section you have all you need to know and more.
I been here this long. I never been or know or heard about EU section lol
 
What different between these 2 ? So pretty much all American vehicles can run these type of oil as long it same viscosity ?

For what I understand, EU version is always the higher standard level then US made one

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What different between these 2 ? So pretty much all American vehicles can run these type of oil as long it same viscosity ?

For what I understand, EU version is always the higher standard level then US made one

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ESP is low SAPS oil. The sulfated ash and phosphorus byproduct will be similar to the ILSAC oils you use.
However, ESP will have higher ZDDP, better viscosity retention etc. ESP is designed for both gas and diesel with DPF.
Lower one, or M1 5W30 FS, is Full SAPS oil. It is OK to use in engines without DPF (particulate filters). Both are really good, but M1 5W30 FS is much harder to find.
Another difference between these Euro oils and ILSAC is HTHS. These oils have minimum HTHS of 3.5, which is actually what matters. They are also called "thick" W30 oils and KV100 is almost borderline W40.
 
Ah man, what I got myself into lol. Now I’m curious and overwhelming, i did went to EU oil section for the first time. Some say castrol EU is better then Mobil 1. I did a search and castrol seem more easy find at Walmart then Mobil 1
 
What different between these 2 ? So pretty much all American vehicles can run these type of oil as long it same viscosity ?

For what I understand, EU version is always the higher standard level then US made one

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Just an FYI because you may not know, but if you're looking for motor oil on walmart.com or the app, just remove the car. Walmart won't show you any oils that aren't spec'd for your vehicle. So all the 40 weight oils won't show up for example.
 
Just an FYI because you may not know, but if you're looking for motor oil on walmart.com or the app, just remove the car. Walmart won't show you any oils that aren't spec'd for your vehicle. So all the 40 weight oils won't show up for example.
Nice tips
 
I actually moved from M1 EP to VRP. I keep stock of both as well as PUP and would have no issue going back and forth between any, although VRP is still my primary choice.
 
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