Valvoline Restore & Protect
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BrendanC
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my all time favorite off the shelf oil is the Valvoline EP HM.
*What exactly does having cleaner pistons accomplish in the engine (gas milage, horse power, etc. ) ? ... I primarily think about trying to just keep all internals clean .
It's a preventative measure. It's like saying why having a calculus free tooth good for your body? You should know the answer to that.
I do understand what you're saying.
I think if you have heard your particular engine could have a piston cleanliness/ring issue, it could be a compelling. Furthermore, if you have oil consumption just starting, it's a compelling product.
Sure, if you have a pretty much bullet proof engine and already use a great product, one doesn't have to change. However, this makes a great option if you think you have a small problem, could foresee a small problem coming up due to the history of your engine model, or want to do a preventative measure as sandstorm pointed out.
If it works in my Volvo 5 cylinder that was just starting to consume oil, I'd be so thankful, I might switch over more vehicles!
Short of an engine tear down… nobody’s knows for sure
But engine performance from oil use and oil consumption and MPG can tell a lot about the health of an engine. After 108K miles on my engine I have zero issues from oil use or lower MPG
I’d bet my engine is in great shape !!
Cleaner pistons (regardless of how it's done) will also mean a cleaner ring pack with free moving rings, which is key to a healthy running engine, optimum power and fuel mileage potential compared to stuck non-functioning rings.
I sure hope so !
Patman
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I've been reading so much about this oil lately that I had a dream about it last night 
I must admit that I'm considering using it in my Civic for a few intervals, although I wonder if my engine really needs it. The gas mileage I'm getting lately is quite incredible. Over the last 6000 miles my average is 47.1 MPG and in particular in the last week (about 400 miles of driving) my average is at 52.2! I doubt I could get that kind of MPG if my piston rings needed any serious cleaning. Although one could also argue that for a few bucks more than what I'm using now, it certainly can't hurt to run VR&P for a few intervals just in case. I don't know for sure what oils were used on this car for the first 130,000km. I think the oil changes might have been done at the Honda dealer by the first owner.
I must admit that I'm considering using it in my Civic for a few intervals, although I wonder if my engine really needs it. The gas mileage I'm getting lately is quite incredible. Over the last 6000 miles my average is 47.1 MPG and in particular in the last week (about 400 miles of driving) my average is at 52.2! I doubt I could get that kind of MPG if my piston rings needed any serious cleaning. Although one could also argue that for a few bucks more than what I'm using now, it certainly can't hurt to run VR&P for a few intervals just in case. I don't know for sure what oils were used on this car for the first 130,000km. I think the oil changes might have been done at the Honda dealer by the first owner.
Can't hurt Patman to run it. While the Civic would likely run forever regardless, it's a cheap preventative measure. Even the slightest buildup on the rings would be removed with this product.I've been reading so much about this oil lately that I had a dream about it last night
I must admit that I'm considering using it in my Civic for a few intervals, although I wonder if my engine really needs it. The gas mileage I'm getting lately is quite incredible. Over the last 6000 miles my average is 47.1 MPG and in particular in the last week (about 400 miles of driving) my average is at 52.2! I doubt I could get that kind of MPG if my piston rings needed any serious cleaning. Although one could also argue that for a few bucks more than what I'm using now, it certainly can't hurt to run VR&P for a few intervals just in case. I don't know for sure what oils were used on this car for the first 130,000km. I think the oil changes might have been done at the Honda dealer by the first owner.
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I may try the 5W30 in the Kia just because of Hyundai/Kia's history with engines. I may also move the Tundra and RX 350 to it after I use up my stash of Mobil 1 FS 0W40. It checks off all the boxes as far as being thicker than the 0W20, it is designed to keep pistons and rings clean which I hope along with 5K mile OCIs helps the Kia rings stay clean, and it otherwise meets the certs required for all three vehicles. Is it a game changer in my three vehicles that likely have spotless internals anyway? Nope. Would Mobil 1 EP do just as well? Sure. Would that be any fun? No.
There are some reviews that are trickling in here and there you'll see on different forums. Some report greatly reduced oil consumption on higher mileage vehicles that even saw different engine cleaners like AC Delco Engine Cleaner that didn't work.
OVERKILL
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Yup, this.
- Prevent migration of oil past the oil control rings into the chamber
- Keep rings free in their grooves to maintain compression and prevent blow-by
This ensures optimum fuel economy and power production.
Here's a link to a video from Lake Speed Jr. on the subject....
Maybe I missed it, but was/is there and reason why Valvoline Restore & Protect lacks the Dexos certification?
I watched the entire Lake Speed video and although Lake is a respected oil authority, I saw nothing in the video that proves R&P does what Valvoline claims. It was all marketing blah blah blah. Proof for me would be showing it cleaned out an engine's ring lands either by before and after photos or documented examples of reduced oil consumption. Till then it's all only marketing blah blah blah
19:45-20:40 is one of the key points of the video.
They haven't said why. I'm curious as well.
Essentially what happened was they were in the process of developing/testing oil and they stumbled upon a unique synergy that showed exceptional cleaning. This was only discovered due to hands on engine testing which they're able to do internally because they can run all the engine tests without outsourcing. They take a typical GF-6 rated oil and run it through the IIIH test which subjects the oil to 304F for 90 hours. They then put the pistons/engine back together and run Restore & Protect and it cleans the piston rings back to OE levels of cleanliness.
Per the LSJ video: 4,000 mile OCI before and after.
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I don't understand people who argue these facts? If you don't believe it, then why do they believe HPL/AMSOIL/ ETC.? Or why believe the other certifications but not the Valvoline ran tests in the ILSAC GF6A certs?
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