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[FlyingTexan]

Well, again, we can ask the formulator who has commented on this @MolaKule because you are arguing with his expertise on this matter, not my opinion. And ATF +4 is synthetic, it has to be under license. Both ATF +3 and ATF +4 are Group III based products with a strict recipe for the license.

Again? Did you mention this person before? You're saying I'm arguing with someone that hasn't even commented? I'm saying we've cleaned a lot with ATF, including engines. I didn't realize we were doing the impossible.

 

[OVERKILL]

Again? Did you mention this person before? You're saying I'm arguing with someone that hasn't even commented? I'm saying we've cleaned a lot with ATF, including engines. I didn't realize we were doing the impossible.

Yes, I literally quoted a post from him in post #15 if you go back and take a look. Would you like me to quote the body of what he said here?

 

[OVERKILL]

Someone else did the impossible.
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I mean, ignoring for the moment that most Project Farm videos posted on here get deleted due to the abuse of science, he didn't run the same test with an engine oil of similar viscosity to the ATF. ATF +4 for example, is around the same visc as a 0W-16.

 

[FlyingTexan]

I mean, ignoring for the moment that most Project Farm videos posted on here get deleted due to the abuse of science, he didn't run the same test with an engine oil of similar viscosity to the ATF. ATF +4 for example, is around the same visc as a 0W-16.

You said it couldn't do it. I said it was common practice for us. I posted a vid of another guy doing it and him taking the motor apart and showing the results. Pretty clear it does work. What are you still going on about?

 

[OVERKILL]

You said it couldn't do it. I said it was common practice for us. I posted a vid of another guy doing it and him taking the motor apart and showing the results. Pretty clear it does work. What are you still going on about?

No, I said ATF isn't a cleaner, when compared to engine oil. You've now posted a Project Farm video where he's dumping ATF down the intake of a running engine and arguing that this is proof of your claim. The combusting of ATF. There was no control. There was no identical test run with say 0W-16 to see what it did being dumped down the intake. This process also works with plain water (which he also tested), which I am hoping you also wouldn't argue is also a fantastic cleaner just because it does the same thing dumped down the intake as ATF:

Just for the sake of completeness:
ATF before/after:

Water before/after:

The water was as effective, if not more so than the ATF.

The conclusion here isn't that ATF is a cleaner but rather, injecting a liquid into the intake tract reduces combustion chamber deposits.

 

[alcyon]

#4 I cant find it in eu. A link would be a big help

https://rislone.com/international/germany/
https://rislone.com/international/europe-sds/

 

[dbias]

I sometimes use WD40 to thin and 'emulsify' the oil on my hands before I wash them with soap and water. Works very well despite probably not being very good for my skin. However, doesn't mean it's going to do sod all in an engine.

Modern ATF's will not clean, as stated by Molakule who is a tribologist and been on this website since 2002.

Believe it or not when I get grease all over my hands and forearms when wrenching on my vehicles the best thing ever to clean up is regular vegetable oil. Way better than any automotive hand cleaner I’ve seen. Not that I’m advocating to add vegetable oil in the crankcase to desludge an engine but it sure works on my hands.

 

[OVERKILL]

Believe it or not when I get grease all over my hands and forearms when wrenching on my vehicles the best thing ever to clean up is regular vegetable oil. Way better than any automotive hand cleaner I’ve seen. Not that I’m advocating to add vegetable oil in the crankcase to desludge an engine but it sure works on my hands.

I mean, at least it's non-toxic IIRC, vegetable oils have high solvency, so that really shouldn't be as surprising as it is at first blush.

 

[FCD]

Restore and Protect is not sold in Europe