The guy is correct on how the filter works, I always like the coil springs better than other bypass springs, here in North Dakota when it is -30 or -40 below, I believe the coil springs work throughout the filters life. Most of the other bypass systems end up bending down and with being in bypass mode alot of the time the metals does not spring back to new condition causing the filter to bypass oil all the time no matter the oil pressure. This guy is more correct than most people think, especially in cold weather or when using heavier oil than spected for an engine.
Uncle Tony on oil filters.
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No, he's not correct at all. The coil (or leaf) spring between the dome of the can and the cartridge end cap has nothing to do with the bypass vavle. That's why there's a separate bypass valve. The purpose of the coil or leaf spring is only to keep the guts of the filter tight. He thinks the whole cartridge assembly moves up/down in the can to bypass oil, but it doesn't work like that unless the system that holds the guts tight has failed. What's he think the actual bypass valve does?
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There have been a few members here that have measured the delta-P across the filter on their car, and recorded what was going on as the oil temperature went from cold to hot, and at various engine RPM. The dP only got near the bypass valve setting when the engine was revved pretty high with pretty cold oil. That's how it should work.
When the oil is fully hot and thin, it would take near redline RPM to even get close to enough dP to near the bypass setting.
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This is the same guy that said the HEMI lifter bores were not oiled directly, but rather by splash from the crank (which is not possible, there's a huge chunk of block in the way) and this is why they were failing.
He needs to pull back on the hot takes and put in some time to understand and think things through before making videos on them. This video is yet another example of that "shoot from the hip" nonsense.
He needs to pull back on the hot takes and put in some time to understand and think things through before making videos on them. This video is yet another example of that "shoot from the hip" nonsense.
Shooting from the hip with blanks while blindfolded. I need to go read the YouTube comments to see how many people are lapping up the misinformation, lol.
Edit - just skimmed over some of the comments on the video, and some people are believing this non-sense that oil filters only filter at idle and any RPM above that makes them bypass.
Many more like this ... lol.
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Filled with more misinformation. There really is a "flat earth" society in
the oil filter world it seems.
Below - this is correct ... there is only one bypass valve in an oil filter.And in this case, it's the bypass valve shown in this shot. The coil spring
just above the bypass valve is not used for any kind of bypass operation.
It's there to just keep all the guts of the filter tight inside the can.
Below - what he calls the "pressure spring" is not a bypass valve. It'sthere to only keep the guts of the filter tight, and to seal the end caps at
the center tube against the ADBV and the hole at the dome end end cap.
He is forcing the whole filter media assemble up, which can not happen
under normal use conditions. He thinks because he can make it move,
that it must move in use ... that is not the case.
Below - this is not correct ... the whole media cartridge assembly insidethe can does not move, because the coil or leaf spring in the dome end
constantly keeps the guts tight from not moving. There are no oil forces
that will cause the whole media assembly to move towards the dome end.
Only a human's hand pushing it like he does can cause that. He shows the
actual bypass valve working, so don't know where he's getting this idea
that the big coil spring in the dome end is somehow another magical bypass
spring. I think Uncle Tony has been watching videos like this and just parroting
misinformation ... that's the main purpose of YT.
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we are doomed.
First massive misinformation. Then came “alternative facts”. Now we have Artificial Intelligence, which can produce text and video that has images of fake “people” saying things that are total (edit - Mod).
Then there’s this oil filter nincompoop who really should join forces with the oil testing charlatan.
Good god, it’s enough to make a person just never look at a web page again. Then we’d only have to look the liars straight in the face, person-to-person, the old fashioned way.
sorry for the rant.
Z
First massive misinformation. Then came “alternative facts”. Now we have Artificial Intelligence, which can produce text and video that has images of fake “people” saying things that are total (edit - Mod).
Then there’s this oil filter nincompoop who really should join forces with the oil testing charlatan.
Good god, it’s enough to make a person just never look at a web page again. Then we’d only have to look the liars straight in the face, person-to-person, the old fashioned way.
sorry for the rant.
Z
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The video the OP posted is right up there with the videos from that guy named after a Star Trek character whose name I refuse to say. Why do we post youtube videos from guys who don't know what they are talking about. And then give them money when we click on their videos for their nonsensical logic?
If I was Mr. In Charge on this forum their links would be banned......
If I was Mr. In Charge on this forum their links would be banned......
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I saw a beauty tweet on the decline of critical thinking and the teaching of the sciences yesterday and this thread totally resonates with why this is such a huge issue.
The general public gleefully platforms imbeciles who manage to execute entertaining delivery despite the content itself being grossly misleading or downright devoid of fact. I am constantly reminded that Idiocracy was not supposed to be a documentary, yet here we are
I am constantly reminded that Idiocracy was not supposed to be a documentary, but here we are
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Today we have a walk back UTG video. He was talking about top fuel engines, not the average road car...
I've never seen any manufacturer say that the whole media cartridge is supposed to move as a bypass, and that doesn't make any sense, one on filters with an ADBV the adbv could get displaced and two where is the differential pressure at to push the spring down, the media cartridge and the can walls should have all roughly the same pressure being applied to them. I think the scoring he's seeing came during assembly/disassembly.
The coil spring in the dome end is now the "Pressure Differential Regulator" ?? ...
... he's even more wrong. There is no pressure differential that makes the guts of the filter move up and down inside the can. The pressure on the dirty side of the filter is basically the same in all areas of the dirty side ... so there is no offset force to push the guts up against the coil spring force. And if the guts did move up, as someone mentioned above, the ADBV would become loose and could get swept into the engine. This guy needs to just remove those two videos, lol.Back peddle fail ....
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I watched that yesterday. He's mostly full of baloney.
