The New Fram Ultra......

[Blagoje]

I was just about to s ay the same thing. For me it's been 2 Walmarts & 2 Meijers and I was only able to score 2 Ultra's with the wire backing...

It has begun, those who began hoarding early will be the only ones to survive the coming Frampocalypse. A bartering culture will be established as the new world order and those in possesion of wire backed Fram Ultras will hold immense sway over the future of our species

 

[dblshock]

I'm right at the point where I'll have to stretch these screened Ultras out to 23-24k or retire them prematurely..this will also require them to survive the bitter cold winter here right at their end of life plus the 3-4k. I'm leaning this way cause the oil is relatively clear running 8k OCI's on rock solid engines.

 

[dblshock]

I'm right at the point where I'll have to stretch these screened Ultras out to 23-24k or retire them prematurely..this will also require them to survive the bitter cold winter here right at their end of life plus the 3-4k. I'm leaning this way cause the oil is relatively clear running 8k OCI's on rock solid engines.

Took a couple shots of the 4.7 oil here at 7,700mi. looks healthy to me... neither engine uses oil

 

[ZeeOSix]

Not me, never said that. The Fram video shows the automated glue process for the end caps. If the cap is off center the engineering design is not being met.

I'd have to go search what all 4 of your usernames have said about the gap, lol. Have you seen the production drawings? You do realize that everything ever made by man has some kind of design drawing and manufacturing tolerances, and I'm sure with an oil filter they are not on the same level as space hardware.

So what's so bad about that small gap when there is not any leakage through it anyway because the end cap is sealed 360 deg around the center tube?

Got to keep this thread going, it is so vastly important to mankind what has happened to the Ultra.

Seems like talk about the Ultra always triggers teeth grinding and some kind of negative response within the skull.

 

[dblshock]

IMO: Fram likely has margined in error not to exclude some really dirty engine platforms, to make a blanket 20k statement like that the XG series is probably your 30-40k filter under many cleaner conditions right there.

 

[bullwinkle]

I'm right at the point where I'll have to stretch these screened Ultras out to 23-24k or retire them prematurely..this will also require them to survive the bitter cold winter here right at their end of life plus the 3-4k. I'm leaning this way cause the oil is relatively clear running 8k OCI's on rock solid engines.

The one I ran 20K could have made 40K, it was essentially spotless, except for a small amount of carbon. Rocks & resulting rust were the only things that could kill the OG Ultra! Good news is, I have enough OG XG3600s to last the rest of the xB’s life, easily.

 

[bullwinkle]

Seems like talk about the Ultra always triggers teeth grinding and some kind of negative response within the skull.

It’s infuriating when you find something that actually delivers what it’s supposed to, for a decent price, and another conglomerate has to go & screw it up, to squeeze a few more pennies out of it. The unfortunate story of most products (that used to be) made in the USA-ruined in the pursuit of short-term profits.

 

[IndyFan]

I scrambled to 4 different Walmarts and all they had were the new, wireless Ultra's. I think people have caught on. This is absolutely horrible and I hope Fram wakes up and realizes what it's doing to it's reputation.

No, I think Walmart just sells high volume. Ours goes through XG10575 filters like hotcakes. Frequently they are out or nearly out, then the next couple days they have a bunch, then almost gone again.

Here's what I think is going to happen. It will filter about the same and they'll hold together just fine.

 

[Oliveoil2]

12 Honda Fit, 127k, OCi at olm times and dates (10-14k), 26k on ultra xg7317. Cut open and nothing to see. Very clean, and could have gone 2x this. Especially on newer low mileage engines. No deformation or evidence of clogging. That depth filtering with metal backing is worth the extra money.

 

[RyanY]

Just out of curiosity, is this the longest thread ever on BITOG?

 

[mazda2.5]

Fram gave the numbers already, they are in this thread. What is going to happen to those numbers? They are still there. Even if everyone pretends they aren't there, they are still there. The new filter media filters better, according to the people who made it.

Trust, but verify

 

[Blagoje]

That depth filtering with metal backing is worth the extra money.

Ya'll better be spending that $15 at your friendly AAP store to get a wire backed Fram Titanium before it's too late. This is like Y2K but REAL!

 

[bullwinkle]

Just out of curiosity, is this the longest thread ever on BITOG?

The "post your OCI" one is longer, AFAIK.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

The "post your OCI" one is longer, AFAIK.

I think we need to break the monotony here and have an old fashioned 5W20 VS 5W30 debate.

 

[demarpaint]

I think we need to break the monotony here and have an old fashioned 5W20 VS 5W30 debate.

How about combining them? Which grade oil, 5w20 or 5w30 is likely to tear the new non-wire backed Ultra Media? Will it be the thinner oil which flows faster and with a vengeance getting into all the nooks and crannies cutting the media. Or the fat thick oil which is slower to move, and might punch a big hole in the media? lol

 

[dedonderosa]

all we can do is wait and see how they are in the long run. imo i dont think we will have any issues, but like i said we have to wait and see. for all we know this new design could be fine with no issues then everyone will praise them again.

 

[demarpaint]

all we can do is wait and see how they are in the long run. imo i dont think we will have any issues, but like i said we have to wait and see. for all we know this new design could be fine with no issues then everyone will praise them again.

I agree. I had some fun in this thread, but we really won't know anything until we see some dissections of the filters in question.

 

[64bawagon]

It’s infuriating when you find something that actually delivers what it’s supposed to, for a decent price, and another conglomerate has to go & screw it up, to squeeze a few more pennies out of it. The unfortunate story of most products (that used to be) made in the USA-ruined in the pursuit of short-term profits.

Humans are to blame, they have an innate ability to screw things up.

 

[Snagglefoot]

It has begun, those who began hoarding early will be the only ones to survive the coming Frampocalypse. A bartering culture will be established as the new world order and those in possesion of wire backed Fram Ultras will hold immense sway over the future of our species

It will be “1984” all over again, but instead of searching for razor blades it will be NOS Ultras and TP.

 

[wpod]

I think we need to break the monotony here and have an old fashioned 5W20 VS 5W30 debate.

0W-40 ..Times are ah changing.