So to step back for a minute - what’s the charging protocol compatibility at the moment… will these chargers be universal?
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Yes, with the exception of Tesla (though adapter cables are available) everyone uses the same connector and protocols. The connector is the SAE J1772
If I was asked that it'd be a bit on the sarcastic side for an answer... I'd do the Ed Begley Jr. bike pedaling charge method to really be clean and green, lmao...
This is somewhat unrelated but I was watching a great program where it showed the top ten cities in USA every year starting at year 1900. Would you believe me that nine of out of ten used to be on the eastern side of United States? Do you know what tipped the balance and now more top ten cities are away from NorthEast?
I will give you a hint. There is some relationship with the current topic and the answer.
Bottom Line:- Things change. Eventually everybody adopts either willingly or forcibly.
I will give you a hint. There is some relationship with the current topic and the answer.
Bottom Line:- Things change. Eventually everybody adopts either willingly or forcibly.
Upgrades are expensive, but who will pay is the question. Electric rates are regulated at the state level to produce a reasonable profit for the owners and a boat load of taxes for the state. Likely a bit of politics in play.
Yes we are regulated in CA by the PUC. The rest is a joke here. One reason I invested in solar panels is that I hate PG&E. The continue to burn down our forrests and more. I hate PG&E.
For a level 2 charger at home, you can go up to 80 amps but probably just a 40 or 50 amp circuit and you just draw around 30 amps. Which is still workable for a 100 amp service. Typically large demand items would be the dryer (30 amp) and the stove (40-50amps) so if you don't run those while charging, you could probably still do it. If you have some electric central air heating/cooling system, then you might be maxed out at 100. You just have to do a load calculation.
It seems to be a regional thing. 200 amp service has been the standard in my neck of the woods for decades. Now older homes will not meet that standard but many have been upgraded.
A lot of new homes get even bigger service. I would suspect that service upgrades will become big business as people research buying a EV and realize their service is inadequate.
Yes, the charger is in the car, you just have to supply the source. Our Model 3 pulls a max of 32A, the dual motor (AWD) cars can pull more.
The car has a scheduler; many people start at 10 PM or later. There are switches that plug into your dryer's outlet and allow switching between dryer and EV.
But I tell people, if oyu are serious at EV ownership, don't Mickey Mouse your charging. Do it right and factor that into your purchase. If I ever have 2 Teslas, I will look into the Wall Charger. But there is zero benefit in that with 1 car. You set the parameters at the bottom of the screen.
Not sure about other states but many have some inspection annually or smog check. You can also have connectivities between the car and a scanner so you have to "drive through" a place to scan your wireless OBD to log your car's info.
For an EV after a certain date, say 5 years from now, this is very achievable. You will be able to know how many miles someone drove and tax them accordingly.
Or just use toll and toll road, charge you based on what kind of vehicles and how many miles you drove / kwh you used.
My guess would be prior to electrification, industrial activities would be using water wheels at Niagara Fall, hence it make sense they have the largest industries and largest cities.
What's sad is this didn't translate into industrial powers of the oil producing places, yet oil turned into a curse for those nations.
Out in the Northwest where the old sawmills were usually located on rivers they used water wheels and multiplication systems to run the saws. The rivers were also used as transportation for the logs from trees cut upriver.
Well electricity was part of it but the real driver was the technology which made air conditioning possible and affordable.
Related to that, it is scary how fast the resources are depleting which allows the standard of living for the SouthWestern part of the country which depends upon Colorado river. Those reservoirs are dropping at alarming rate.
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I'm pretty sure all current EV's already have that information accessible through the charge port.
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When a battery overheats it can go into thermal runaway, and burn. I work with batteries as part of my day job… pretty aggressive fires and failures. You count on the BMS to cut off the battery before a safety (release) event, but that creates its own safety considerations for propulsion in emergent situations… and those who figure how to bypass those safeties. Vastly different outcomes than a blown head gasket…
Regarding glycol - There’s a vast difference between cooling systems that routinely go near boiling, and those kept at much more moderate temperatures. The lower temperatures (batteries need to be kept really cool for example) don’t naturally kill off bio growth, and so you run the real risk of biofouling and other effects.
It’s all great when all these systems are new, and many owners are too incompetent, or perhaps even not allowed to touch these systems in their cars. Imagine when the issues we see even today in ICE cooling systems manifest themselves in new and very real ways in EVs. It’s coming…
Especially likely in Texas... hope they install fire suppression systems in those charge stations as surely somebody will need it.
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Unfortunately the best way to fight these fires is deluge, and it’s really hard to get water into the batteries. So it turns into tens of thousands of gallons of water.
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Some home charger units like the Zappi have a current sensor to manage household power limits or optimise PV usage. Homes here tend to have only 60 or 100A supplies and I don't see reams of complaints about this issue. I have a 60A supply and I'd be fine with a 32A charger because there's nothing else here that could fill up the remaining capacity.
There are many old Nissan Leafs running around here on their last legs and the issue of biofouling has never arrisen. Hyundai/Kia have moved to a specialized coolant for the battery since 2020 which has a required change interval to maintain low conductivity. It's intended to reduce the risk in the event coolant comes in contact with cell terminals after an accident. Tesla owners just have to get out quicker.
