Texas Plans EV Chargers Every 50 Miles on Major Highways

They will just declare bankruptcy like PG&E did, twice I think.
We can write laws for everything else, we can write a law stating they can’t declare bankruptcy for their own failure. We’ll put them on a payment plan, just like they did with all those consumers facing massive bills in 2021. Fair is fair!
 
I worked at a natural gas fired power plant years ago. It was also permitted to run oil. Had about 4 days worth of oil on site and of course tankers could always bring in additional oil if it had to run longer. We only ran it once as a test to make sure it worked. Other times when we got curtailed in the winter due to the shortage of natural gas in the cold, the plant always shut down, wasn't any need to switch to oil as we got the lowest rate in the winter so it was cheaper to just shut it down and the grid didn't need the power. The best rates were in the summer but you never got curtailed on gas during the summer because people weren't using natural gas to heat their homes in the summer. So yeah, you could easily design your plant to run on oil if you wanted to and get it permitted, but then that means you need those storage tanks and the oil to be on standby and they didn't want to pay to do that.
So the choice is:

1) national grid (no good)
2) winterize gas line in winter (no good)
3) 4 days worth of oil (and waste them if not used, or waste $ to haul them around to keep them fresh, no good)
4) the cheapest between once a decade disaster

I can see why 4 being the most popular one.
 
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We can write laws for everything else, we can write a law stating they can’t declare bankruptcy for their own failure. We’ll put them on a payment plan, just like they did with all those consumers facing massive bills in 2021. Fair is fair!
That of course will cost "something". As you said "fair is fair", customers pick a risk / reward plan and they have to stick to it when things happen, or pay for it when it doesn't happen. There's no way around it.
 
That of course will cost "something". As you said "fair is fair", customers pick a risk / reward plan and they have to stick to it when things happen, or pay for it when it doesn't happen. There's no way around it.
It’s not like you can chose a different grid operator… or utility at all in some cases, I’m stuck with one company for instance, most of Texas is stuck with ERCOT. The entire grid going down due to poor planning is preventable, and should be a punishable offense especially if it causes loss of life. A tree falling onto a line or vehicle hitting a pole/transformer is one thing, not having reserve capacity is something else entirely.
 
It's a joke. For the cynical.

Don't get too cynical. The universe is random. Things don't have to happen. Predicting it isn't a well paying job. Can't really profit from your predictions.
What people in power do aren't "random" acts like the universe. People have agendas and plans, and if given enough time they will usually achieve what they have sights on. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that as more and more EVs populate the roads that lost revenues from ICE vehicles like gas tax will have to be passed over to EVs. States are not happy when they lose revenues.
 
Who's going to pay for this? Most of the money used to upkeep the road infrastructure comes from gas taxes.
Used to have a link to it, but my recollection is that gas taxes only pay for about a third. Quick look finds this link and it instead talks about what each household pays towards roads, not percentages.

When you tally all these hidden costs together, alongside the assists that already occur for road construction and maintenance, the average household pays between $1,105 and $1,848 a year in what the report calls "uncompensated damage costs to support motor vehicle use in the United States." Again: whether they drive a lot or hardly at all.
 
It’s still all about California. The data is not up to date but California still completely dominates the numbers.

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Updated for 2021. Notice the “fake news” scale to make it seem the other states are catching up to California. The first line is 100,000 and the 2nd one is 600,000. “It makes it easier to see the other States” What a joke.

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I worked at a natural gas fired power plant years ago. It was also permitted to run oil. Had about 4 days worth of oil on site and of course tankers could always bring in additional oil if it had to run longer. We only ran it once as a test to make sure it worked. Other times when we got curtailed in the winter due to the shortage of natural gas in the cold, the plant always shut down, wasn't any need to switch to oil as we got the lowest rate in the winter so it was cheaper to just shut it down and the grid didn't need the power. The best rates were in the summer but you never got curtailed on gas during the summer because people weren't using natural gas to heat their homes in the summer. So yeah, you could easily design your plant to run on oil if you wanted to and get it permitted, but then that means you need those storage tanks and the oil to be on standby and they didn't want to pay to do that.
It's call FERC. If you're connected to the national grid, you have to follow FERC rules. Texas isn't connected so doesn't have to follow federal rules. You can't have it both ways. It's one or the other. They're the only state not connected to the national grid.

If you want your own reliable power, you can have your own power plant on site. I've seen that with businesses even in Massachusetts, generated a few megawatts to use on site but still hooked up to the local grid in case those power plants tripped and went off line for whatever reason. Still cost a lot to connect to the grid even if you don't use a single watt because they have to have generation on standby in case you need the power so you pay even though you might not use a single watt.
Yes, Cogen is particularly popular in places with higher power prices. We have tons of them here in Ontario. They are almost all exclusively gas.

We do have one dual-fuel publicly owned plant (owned/operated by OPG) that's 2,400MW and being a thermal plant, can run on both gas and oil (Lennox).
 
Whenever electric vehicles get more popular I think you may see a mileage based user fee being implemented on the amount of miles you drive. The government will certainly devise a way to get their money.
https://www.georgiapolicy.org/publi...-per-mile-charges-for-georgia-transportation/
My suspicion is, to make it the same as with the gas tax, there will be a per kWh charge levied on each vehicle, likely tied to the VIN for tracking purposes. Your home smart meter will know when the EV is charging, and track that consumption and report it to your utility, who will then put it on your bill. The same information is gathered by public chargers, you'll pay for the power, the "service" offered by the charger company, and the "road tax" as part of your total per kWh rate. Charging at home will then obviously remain cheaper.

This way, it is imposed just like per gallon or per litre fuel charges. More efficient vehicles that use fewer kWh will benefit and less efficient ones, like with gas, will pay more. This also factors in vehicle weight, which has an impact on road wear.
 
Updated for 2021. Notice the “fake news” scale to make it seem the other states are catching up to California. The first line is 100,000 and the 2nd one is 600,000. “It makes it easier to see the other States” What a joke.

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The fake news is that most of the states that have statistically ZERO EVs tax the living $$$$ out of them because of all the money they loose on the 5 or 6 cars in the state.

The local government accountability board figured it would take 15 years for the state to pay back the costs of upgrading and tracking EVs

Then you have losers like this trying to prevent private business from providing L1 convenience outlets for their customers and employees (even though in many cases these exist to make up for other employees getting gas cards)

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40543385/north-carolina-wants-remove-free-public-ev-chargers/

The battle continues
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My suspicion is, to make it the same as with the gas tax, there will be a per kWh charge levied on each vehicle, likely tied to the VIN for tracking purposes.
This way, it is imposed just like per gallon or per litre fuel charges. More efficient vehicles that use fewer kWh will benefit and less efficient ones, like with gas, will pay more. This also factors in vehicle weight, which has an impact on road wear.

This is what I hoped would be the case coupled with a mandatory minimum number of cars before the tax takes effect.

They should peg the kwhr tax to the gas tax rate so nobody is screwed.

Both the Volt and the Leaf from day 1 reported energy use back to big brother, used to be a sight I could visit to review my or anyone else who opted ins efficiency.
 
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Rocky Mountain Power recently filed its Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Plan with the Utah Public Service Commission, which includes a $50 million investment in electric vehicle charging infrastructure for Utahns across the state.
James Campbell, the Director of Innovation and Sustainability for Rocky Mountain Power says surveys show the two biggest barriers to adopting EV are the cost of the vehicle and infrastructure.

Their goal is to provide fast chargers across the state so drivers feel confident they can get anywhere they need to go.

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/more-electric-vehicle-chargers-coming-to-utah-roads

https://pscdocs.utah.gov/electric/20docs/2003534/320065RMPExhJAC48-23-2021.pdf
Rocky Mountain Power says surveys show the two biggest barriers to adopting EV are the cost of the vehicle and infrastructure.

Imagine that! Who knew. People don't want to buy an expensive item that you can't get fuel for readily. I didn't realize that many homes in this country only have 100 amp service so can't really charge at home.
 
I didn't realize that many homes in this country only have 100 amp service so can't really charge at home.
My house is older, built in 1962. I had the house rewired and a new 200A service panel installed years ago. Otherwise I would never have considered a Tesla.
Perspective buyers ask about the car. The 1st thing I ask them is, "How you gonna charge?"
 
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