Texas Plans EV Chargers Every 50 Miles on Major Highways
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Can we hear it again, lmao?!? Do realize different strokes for different folks... EV WON'T WORK FOR EVERYONE and will NEVER WORK for air travel, heavy vehicles, ocean travel, etc. Guess we will see electric boats, Harleys, etc. as well, correct?
I very well remember this same thought process on diesel being so great for everyday use back in the late 70s-early 80s. Had an uncle that bought a POS Datsun diesel pickup thinking he would save the world and his wallet with it's efficiency... actually wish he were still alive so I could laugh at him once again, bwahahaha... as he went on and on about that **** joke of a 'work' truck for the longest time.
Of course many in this world are always looking for new/different and some technological breakthroughs are worth the wait, but many are a boring joke. Sometimes it's totally fine to rely on what's tried and true as some things just can't be improved much more. Latest Google feed I spotted mentioned the 'superb advancement awaiting us all' with green ammonia use for travel. Yeah that is as likely as hydrogen, etc. Thing is batteries and EVs have been around for quite a long time and still aren't practical for typical everyday use for many of us. Guess maybe in another 100 yrs it might be more plausible!
JHZR2
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Well actually... EV is pretty ideally suited to short haul heavy vehicles, and surprisingly better for boats than you think. There are already electric PWC that have good performance with similar weight to a gas model. Expensive right now, but that's a thing. Engines and associated componentry are heavy, and batteries can be put at the bottom of the boat for stability. Your idea on diesels is also skewed by the crappy diesel situation in the US. In Europe, diesels are still the normal. My friend I visited had a diesel Hyundai Santa Fe. This is just the typical "bah new stuff get off my lawn" attitude. Air travel, yeah that's a long, long way off, if ever.
The Nissan Leaf doesn’t have a cooling system, so I guess “that’s what happens “
The Leaf is a bad example since it uses a bad battery chemistry with poor wear characteristics.
JHZR2
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Yeah and the rear modules get hot and expand, and become safety issues.
Oh, and by the way, the motor and inverter are water cooled. Guess what also happens to low temperature cooling systems that don’t get warm enough to kill off bio growth, once the wrong inhibitors are used or none are added?? Much worse scenario there too with biofouling.
To be clear I'm just saying the Leaf specifically is a bad example. Yeah not ideal if the cooling system fails, but just like gasoline vehicles EVs have temp sensors, especially in the battery packs and will throw an alert if something goes wrong. I think overall EVs will be way, way, way more reliable and cheaper to own and maintain than gas vehicles. There are just so many fewer components.
JHZR2
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There are only fewer components of you consider the battery as a monolithic part, not the complex thing that it is, with lots of sensors.
I agree with you that the leaf is a bad example, and it still has two cooling systems/radiators all the same.
I’m also not anti ev, and definitely not anti PHEV. I’m one of the few people on here that actually works with large batteries and advanced battery tech as part of my day job. So I can discuss the bad with the hood, and what scares me…
JHZR2
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The problem with Texas is far too many non-Texans, especially those from blue states who move here to escape the idiocy and horrible conditions and then proceed to vote blue here.
There's a good video on FB showing the "gas" line at a CA charging station, several dozen cars lined up waiting to get to the charging stations. Just like the "gas lines" of the 70's only with a longer wait between changing vehicles.
There's a good video on FB showing the "gas" line at a CA charging station, several dozen cars lined up waiting to get to the charging stations. Just like the "gas lines" of the 70's only with a longer wait between changing vehicles.
Haters gonna hate.
Only place I’ve ever seen a bank of superchargers full is Houston…
Only place I’ve ever seen a bank of superchargers full is Houston…
Yeah surely EV will have some decent uses, but long distance trucks, cement hauling, dozers/dump trucks working road construction, quarries, etc... that sort of thing is out of reach for battery power. Capacity and down time for charging just won't be practical.
I don't care about the norm in Europe as I will never end up there, lmao... I've never been impressed with most diesels I've ridden in or driven. Not to mention the POS Mercedes diesels that still litter the roadways and those owners just can't part with them. Belching out tons of smoke and 0-60 in a few days if you're lucky as I've been stuck behind quite a few over the years. Of course diesel has a useful place as will EV, but will never replace gasoline on many levels.
Texas just has to do their own thing and have their own power grid. Guess they haven't learned the last few times they had a grid meltdown. What a farce.
I think most normal people are realizing that just because government mandates things like unrealistic CAFE standards or prohibiting the sale of ICE vehicles by a certain date as part of the move to an "all green" energy world, it doesn't mean that such things are possible at an arbitrary date. Look at what such thinking has done to the economy at this moment ?
Anyway, a regime change in Washington will likely cause a lot of those mandates to be pushed back to something representing a more realistic goal. Sure, the move away from fossil fuels is a good one but it's going to take a few more decades to be complete.
About 20 years ago I read that there was enough oil under the United States to supply another hundred years of people driving ICE vehicles at the (at that time) present consumption rate. That was assuming we were drilling for it and had enough refinery capacity.
So there is no need to change to all EV's within the next 8 years, especially when the average consumer can't afford them and "forcing" the issue with destructive to the economy energy policies and creating national security risks from having the US rely on foreign oil are idealistic but brainless ideas.
"realistic goal" nah, they'll be pushed back into oblivion because oil and coal companies gotta continue to make obscene profits. Also according to them states shouldn't be allowed to set their own fuel efficiency requirements. And refining capacity in the US is not going to ever increase again, refineries are too expensive and the last thing oil companies want is lower prices. This whole "making the US rely on foreign oil" thing is so much gaslighting, we are still a net oil exporter, the issue is that oil is an international worldwide commodity meaning that supply restrictions in other parts of the world cause our prices to go up just the same. The biggest reason for current gas prices besides runaway speculation are refinery capacity.
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Florida is in the mix as well...
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/envir...s-about-to-get-a-boost-to-its-charger-network
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/envir...s-about-to-get-a-boost-to-its-charger-network
