Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD)

This wasn't FSD. The driver having a medical episode pressed hard on the pedal.

I get that you don't like FSD. That doesn't mean you need to be intentionally dishonest.
You don’t get it. It should have seen objects and put on the brakes. Neither of my two modern cars would have allowed this to happen. I have never tried however.
 
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You don’t get it. It should have seen objects and put on the brakes. Neither of my two modern cars would have allowed this to happen. I have never tried however.
I'm talking about the story you posted that in the link that I commented on. It had nothing to do with FSD.

Every story on a Tesla doing something weird is an automatic hit piece on Tesla. You don't hear these stories about other cars, yet the same things happen with other cars too.

Go try it in your cars and see how it works out since you're so sure it will work and you haven't tried it. We'll wait for the report.

For all we know the person shut the feature off. The option is in the menu. It has to be done every time the car is turned on. You can do the same in VW/Audi products as well, I've done it.
 
I could put tape in front of the all sensors, or pull an abs speed sensor. Either one will probably shut down most of the safety systems. It still doesn’t get around the fact that Tesla needs to do better and the number of videos of them hitting things like the last one I posted could be avoided. Having radar wouldn’t hurt. The only reason Tesla gets hit on stories like this is because Elons ridiculous claims about safety.
 
On the other hand, why would a Robotaxi or other self driving car need a brake pedal? Doesn't seem crazy, seems common sense.
On the other hand how many people die because we are so far away from autonomous driving. Everything is great until it’s your relative that dies.
 
On the other hand how many people die because we are so far away from autonomous driving. Everything is great until it’s your relative that dies.

Do you not know anyone who has fallen asleep while driving? Do you not know anyone with a DUI? Do you not know anyone who texts and drives? Do you not know anyone who has got behind the wheel while emotional to the point they shouldn't be driving? FSD doesn't get tired, drunk, distracted, or emotional.
 
Do you not know anyone who has fallen asleep while driving? Do you not know anyone with a DUI? Do you not know anyone who texts and drives? Do you not know anyone who has got behind the wheel while emotional to the point they shouldn't be driving? FSD doesn't get tired, drunk, distracted, or emotional.
Don’t be ridiculous. So you think those people are going to call a robotaxi while emotional distraught? While tired? You funny now. Robotaxi doesn’t prevent any of that.
 
I’m currently at the Austrian GP. If Ferrari loses am I going to be also distraught, and drunk, and probable emotional enough I shouldn’t be walking? I’ll call a robotaxi and wait 46 hours until it gets to me. That’s the plan for now. Maybe I’ll just put my big boy pants on and figure out a way home without driving.
 
I'm not sure why you're so bothered about Tesla and FSD when none of your gripes even have a thing to do with FSD if you did 5 seconds of research.
 
I'm not sure why you're so bothered about Tesla and FSD when none of your gripes even have a thing to do with FSD if you did 5 seconds of research.
Because Teslas lack of safety is killing people. And I have been a professional driver for more than 30 years and guarantee my safety record is better than anything Tesla can provide, only because I have been trained properly, and pay attention like every other driver should. Do not drop the standards because of every idiot on the road, raise the bar and remove their driving privileges.
 
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Because Teslas lack of safety is killing people. And I have been a professional driver for more than 30 years and guarantee my safety record is better than anything Tesla can provide, only because I have been trained properly, and pay attention like every other driver should. Do not drop the standards because of every idiot on the road, raise the bar and remove their driving privileges.
Right. My driving record is flawless. A car can't save everyone from themselves. You and I are likely well beyond the average driver. I'd say we are better drivers than FSD. FSD is still much safer than the average driver. We're surrounded by bad drivers too. They do some really dumb things at times that not even AI could counteract because the behavior is so far out of left field. So with that logic, does that mean not a single Audi with AEB has ever been the at fault in an accident?

Think for two seconds what you're saying here. You're not wrong in the slightest that an attentive driver is the safest solution. This tech can't defy the laws of physics when the lump of meat behind the wheel does the most egregious things though, nor does it always function 100% perfectly. It's also being assumed the system wasn't shut off. Yes it warns you and requires you to select that you understand the drawbacks of disabling the system. It reenables automatically every time you re-enter the vehicle. You're speaking in absolutes on a system we expect to work flawlessly that is tested in theory, but not intentionally tested in the real world because of safety implications. In theory it should work. We all know reality is sometimes different.
 
Right. My driving record is flawless. A car can't save everyone from themselves. You and I are likely well beyond the average driver. I'd say we are better drivers than FSD. FSD is still much safer than the average driver. We're surrounded by bad drivers too. They do some really dumb things at times that not even AI could counteract because the behavior is so far out of left field. So with that logic, does that mean not a single Audi with AEB has ever been the at fault in an accident?

Think for two seconds what you're saying here. You're not wrong in the slightest that an attentive driver is the safest solution. This tech can't defy the laws of physics when the lump of meat behind the wheel does the most egregious things though, nor does it always function 100% perfectly. It's also being assumed the system wasn't shut off. Yes it warns you and requires you to select that you understand the drawbacks of disabling the system. It reenables automatically every time you re-enter the vehicle. You're speaking in absolutes on a system we expect to work flawlessly that is tested in theory, but not intentionally tested in the real world because of safety implications. In theory it should work. We all know reality is sometimes different.
Where you are wrong is thinking this product will save lives. Only for those that can afford. That is at least 20+ years down the road. Automated braking is at least 3* years down the road. Until then Tesla continues killing people with unproven technology. Haven’t heard of Mercedes killing anybody.
 
Family member recently called me because she knows I am interested in technology, close friend has a Tesla, used FSD a few times already from Connecticut to their second home in Florida I think that is around 1000 miles each way, claims they never have to drive. The Tesla takes them the entire trip to and from.
Also likes the self park thing and that the car gets itself using the app on your phone??? (if I got that right)
 
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Family member recently called me because she knows I am interested in technology, close friend has a Tesla, used FSD a few times already from Connecticut to their second home in Florida I think that is around 1000 miles each way, claims they never have to drive. The Tesla takes them the entire trip to and from.
Also likes the self park thing and that the car gets itself using the app on your phone??? (if I got that right)
My wife has that … me 😷 plus I buy dinner 🍲
 
Where you are wrong is thinking this product will save lives. Only for those that can afford. That is at least 20+ years down the road. Automated braking is at least 3* years down the road. Until then Tesla continues killing people with unproven technology. Haven’t heard of Mercedes killing anybody.
What? No one has died in a Mercedes? Mercedes isn't responsible when their customer crashes the car, but Tesla is?

You just said before Audi doesn't have this problem because automated emergency braking won't allow it. Now you say this tech is 3+ years away.

Now I think you're just trolling me.
 
Family member recently called me because she knows I am interested in technology, close friend has a Tesla, used FSD a few times already from Connecticut to their second home in Florida I think that is around 1000 miles each way, claims they never have to drive. The Tesla takes them the entire trip to and from.
Also likes the self park thing and that the car gets itself using the app on your phone??? (if I got that right)
Most of the time it's good. It's stellar in large areas with tons of data. Have I had to step in when it makes a mistake? Yep that is why it is supervised, but it hasn't tried to drive me through a house yet and I've used it for 1000s of miles.

It is kind of fun having the car come pick you up. It really messes with people.
 
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