Stellantis names new CEO: Antonio Filosa
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Nothing. More 100k Jeeps and continued falling sales.
I will wait for TK, OCMotivator, and Butter to tell me what, if anything will change.
As long as he leaves Tim Kuniskis alone and lets him do his thing Ram will regain market share in 2026 and after that the Dodge brand will pick up steam.
Stellantis saying "look we're improving", temporary increase of stocks enough for the execs to hit his bonus, nothing changing, followed closely by the company failing again and the ceo leaving with his bonus.
Every automaker who has bought/owned Jeep brand has failed.
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This ^^^
I'd add - any automaker who has bought/owned any American car brand has lost money at the end of the day, best case scenario.
Speaking of which - I still find RAM as a separate brand ridiculous.
Dude. It's a Dodge. Be proud. Make Dodge pride-worthy.
Worst renaming for the sake of renaming after HBO.
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Really? This happened in 2009, 16 years ago. Time to move on I think.
I don't see the issue with having a dedicated truck brand. It allows them to have different CEO's/management/direction, for a start.
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I have no chips in this game. Just find it unsmart.
As for moving on - I go in chronological order, and Jar Jar Binks has frozen the queue - I'll be able to move on the rest of the queue the day I move on it, which is never.
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Give me a "for instance". How is it unsmart.
Those words seem like English, yes. But you either need to rearrange them or introduce other ones because I have no idea what you're saying.
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Toyota was inexpensive and econoboxy. To get new clients from a higher bracket - in the US - they had to create a luxury brand. They gave rich people a decent excuse to be seen in a Toyota without being laughed at. Lexus covered a new bracket. It was adding something new and bringing more sales.
Dodge has always had a Ram, and it was a thing of beauty. Dodge Ram sounded proud. Dodge Truck sounded proud.
Spinning it into a separate brand was a cheap trick that took a chunk out of Dodge and made it smaller. It hurt it further by implying that the brand had become so crappy that the stuff that still sold well shouldn't be associated with it.
It didn't do anything extra for the trucks, didn't bring anything, didn't make them sell better or worse, didn't add any value, didn't create a new market, didn't bring extra sales, as they'd sell no matter what they are called.
And it happened at a time when the whole country was hurting and when the last thing traditional American brands needed was name dilution. It was a dumb and needless move. Add a new meaningless brand at a time when a boatload of traditional meaningful brands were being killed.
I sympathize with your linguistical predicament, but I'm not that helpful of a type
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I'm just gonna say the skepticism in this thread is justified. We know from results Stellantis tries to promise big things every few years but the downward trajectory continues.
I can't help but feel like they're out of touch with the American market and Fiat didn't help that. We don't need Fiats to run around little European hamlets.
Epic fails like the SST in the Ram don't help.
I'd only take the CEO job with an impressive golden parachute because you're almost surely gonna need it.
I can't help but feel like they're out of touch with the American market and Fiat didn't help that. We don't need Fiats to run around little European hamlets.
Epic fails like the SST in the Ram don't help.
I'd only take the CEO job with an impressive golden parachute because you're almost surely gonna need it.
Ain't that the truth.
How is the Dodge brand going to pick up steam without any meaningful product?
Same thing with Chrysler. Either provide some product, or put it out of its misery.
With as many marques as Stellantis markets, one would think that they could find something to rebadge or recobble.
Alfa product hasn't exactly created a desired result.
Opels anyone?
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But Fiat's money when we were dead in the water we needed, didn't we
That's the beauty of US market. We're so big that we can in all clear conscience drive automotive companies in the ground, have some poor optimist from overseas come in and invest, acting like we're doing them a favor, eventually kicking them out once we're healthy, till next time and the next naive company with sparkles in their eyes picks up the torch
Renault, Daimler - you name it. I love it.
Then again, Renault gave us money and the Cherokee's suspension, Daimler gave us the E class platform that was used and reused and remained good for close to 20 years, Fiat gave us money and a made in Poland Jeep badged mini and an Italian-made Dodge with Italian electronics.
That's going downhill.
I visited the TM Racing motorcycle factory (TM, not KTM) in Pesaro 15 years ago. One of the very few Italian thingies with an engine that are actually reliable and well built.
We were discussing how their big thumper (450cc and 530cc) had an actual oil pumps as opposed to many of their then competitors relying on the cam chain bringing the oil up, and we moved onto the next station where fuel injections and ignitions were set.
I looked at the guy, he chuckled and said "...We've been in business for decades. We have tried absolutely everything, and we figured out one thing the hard way: if gas or electricity goes through a part - this part has to be Japanese".
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Fiat massively overhauled the interiors, improving them immensely. The difference between the Daimler-era interiors and the FIAT ones is very pronounced.But Fiat's money when we were dead in the water we needed, didn't we
That's the beauty of US market. We're so big that we can in all clear conscience drive automotive companies in the ground, have some poor optimist from overseas come in and invest, acting like we're doing them a favor, eventually kicking them out once we're healthy, till next time and the next naive company with sparkles in their eyes picks up the torch
Renault, Daimler - you name it. I love it.
Then again, Renault gave us money and the Cherokee's suspension, Daimler gave us the E class platform that was used and reused and remained good for close to 20 years, Fiat gave us money and a made in Poland Jeep badged mini and an Italian-made Dodge with Italian electronics.
That's going downhill.
The Daimler era also gave us the WK2, which is still being used for the Durango.
