Recall - Early Toyota Tundras - Northern states

[hone eagle]

Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
Originally Posted By: hone eagle
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.


what are you smokin!


funny that you ask, I'm usually smoking Fords in the Supra....or sometimes Chevys or Dodges.


So your what 12?

 

[Scdevon]

Living in an arid, high desert climate, It's hard for me to relate to that kind of rust. My '89 Corolla is totally rust free. There's no excuse for cancer rust on a frame rail, though. They can't manufacture a frame with a high quality galvanized process?

I'm a Toyota fan, but they really dropped the ball on this one.

 

[ThirdeYe]

My car has turned into a rust bucket as well, most Hondas rust pretty bad around the back wheel well but I've never heard of any kind of compensation. The rocker panels on my car are getting pretty rusty too.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
Originally Posted By: hone eagle
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.


what are you smokin!


funny that you ask, I'm usually smoking Fords in the Supra....or sometimes Chevys or Dodges.



If you've got anything less than twins in that Supra, you better keep it out of SE Michigan....lol.

There are plenty of Fords and Chevys in my neck of the woods that would own that little thing and then go have a smoke and laugh about it.....Want to meet up in Milan sometime? They got a little 1/4 mile track they'll be glad to let us use.


LOL, that reminds of an old joke:

What do a 500HP Supra and a 1200HP Supra have in common?








Their ET

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
Originally Posted By: hone eagle
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.


what are you smokin!


funny that you ask, I'm usually smoking Fords in the Supra....or sometimes Chevys or Dodges.


That is pretty bold statement not knowing what anyone else in this thread drives.

Oh by the way OVERK1LL, I may be one of those guys you were talking about.


My Corolla will smoke all of ya'lls rides.

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
My car has turned into a rust bucket as well, most Hondas rust pretty bad around the back wheel well but I've never heard of any kind of compensation. The rocker panels on my car are getting pretty rusty too.

Cars are entirely different, as unibody construction would have to be seriously rusted in critical high stress areas to compromise it's integrity, so a little fender rust, or even a lot of fender rust is nothing but a cosmetic annoyance. Trucks on the other hand have a frame, which carries the whole load and stresses, if that rusts, your entire truck is now compromised, thus the recall.

 

[Sayjac]

This is the same issue they had with the Tacoma's. They sent me a notice, but since I live in the south, it doesn't really affect me, and the frame looks fine. They said if I were to move up north I would need to take it in, get it inspected, and possibly treated. For those in the north they could get a total frame replacement if need be. there's a video on here somewhere and maybe youtube, of the process/procedure.

Salt and sand can do a number, and Toyota has learned this lesson the hard way with thier truck frames.

 

[VNTS]

Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.



Only after they are exposed. A coworkers Tacoma went in for oil treatment of the frame this week, guess they spray some preservative on it. They attempted to see if he wanted to trade it in on another Toy, he said no thanks, I wouldnt buy another Toyota, I have friends with full size Chevies and Dodges with hemis getting better gas mileage that this pig with the V6 and manual trans, plus why would I want another rot bucket???

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Just imagine what people would say if it was GM truck frames rusting like that! I don't care what anyone says Toyota trucks always were junky rust buckets.


The same thing you said but the names flipped. So, you're on equal footing with GM haters just the other side of the coin.

 

[Win]

Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.


The NHTSA said Toyota issued misleading information about the status of their ongoing unintended acceleration debacle.

That is the polar opposite of owning up to faults.

 

[02SE]

It looks like they shouldn't have contracted out to Dana Corporation in Kentucky, to build the Tundra frames. The same company that made the rusting Tacoma frames.

 

[brianl703]

If the Dana Corporation built the frames to specification, it wouldn't have mattered who built the frames, the specs were bad.

Like computers, garbage in, garbage out.

 

[02SE]

The only problem with that argument is that the frames made in-house for the Landcruiser, and 4Runner from the same timeframe, don't have these severe rust issues.

It seems pretty obvious to me that these Dana made Tundra and Tacoma frames didn't meet the spec they were supposed to meet...

It should be a good lesson for Toyota not to farm-out frame manufacturing in the future.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: 02SE
It looks like they shouldn't have contracted out to Dana Corporation in Kentucky, to build the Tundra frames. The same company that made the rusting Tacoma frames.


Except Dana makes the frames for Ford, which don't have this issue.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: 02SE
The only problem with that argument is that the frames made in-house for the Landcruiser, and 4Runner from the same timeframe, don't have these severe rust issues.

It seems pretty obvious to me that these Dana made Tundra and Tacoma frames didn't meet the spec they were supposed to meet...

It should be a good lesson for Toyota not to farm-out frame manufacturing in the future.


They didn't farm out their engine design for the sludgers.

And they didn't farm out their drive-by wire design and cabin design which seem to have caused this random acceleration issue that are now present.

They are not infaliable and immune to design faults like some seem to think they are.....

 

[38sho]

Toyota's are some of the rustiest trucks made since the late 80's I have ever seen. I work on a lot of trucks so I've seen my fair share to put up an opinion that might matter. Oh yeah and I live in south florida..... you know its bad when you see Toyotas rotting in florida.....

I've seen tacoma's with pieces of metal welded to the frame to keep them together, thought it was the wierdiest thing ever and provided me a good laugh....... then I saw another one just like it and thought.... man this truck is a POS

yeah some of the engines last awhile, but what good is that when the body/frame of the truck falls apart?

Toyota has dropped the ball big time on its trucks. They don't make as much power, they get less fuel economy, and they cost an arm and a leg......

a VERY stubborn guy at our work is a Toyota brainwash nutcase, he constantly talks about how he doesn't have to fix his toyota, but I see it differently.... he has expensive rotors, pads, tires, and an expensive timing belt job he has done. He has spent a lot of money on the truck. The truck looks like poop, underneath is rusted, the body is all dinged up, the paint is HORRIBLE on it.. no longer shines.. how can someone love something so much and let it get to that condition?

besides all of that.... I tell him my 900 dollar car smokes his truck anyday of the week, and even though I did fix a few things on it.... I got about 50 years of maintenance/fixing stuff to get up to his original 37k dollar purchasing price.... plus interest.... His toyota will be long gone and rusted up after he spends a few more thousand on maintenance by that time.....

He's a funny little guy, thinks his truck is so fast. Welp when I started working their he knew his truck would beat my car.. and I quote, "I beat those kinds of cars all the time...."

Now me being a SHO nutcase, I know of [censored] near every SHO in palm beach county, and I can almost count them on one hand... this is the largest county east of the mississippi.... so how could he be racing SHO's all the time? Especially when none of the ones I know about live anywhere near where he drives...I called his bluff......

we lined them up in front of the shop, I gave him the intial launch, when I saw him get out in front of me I took off.... I had a terrible launch where I spun the tires and had some nice suspension hop going on(SHO's suck for launches)..... by the time I shifted into 3rd I had a buslength or two on him....

Toyota v8 < 80's 3.2L v6 in a Taurus


you guys can keep that garbage

 

[rpn453]

Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
Originally Posted By: hone eagle
Originally Posted By: 94supraonchrome
The difference is the Japanese companies own up to thier faults.


what are you smokin!


funny that you ask, I'm usually smoking Fords in the Supra....or sometimes Chevys or Dodges.



If you've got anything less than twins in that Supra, you better keep it out of SE Michigan....lol.

There are plenty of Fords and Chevys in my neck of the woods that would own that little thing and then go have a smoke and laugh about it.....Want to meet up in Milan sometime? They got a little 1/4 mile track they'll be glad to let us use.


I dare you guys to come to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan and cruise 8th Street on a Saturday night. My buddy Bob Falfa would smoke anyone!

 

[H2GURU]

These Tundra owners have it MADE! I had the frame done on my Tacoma and the truck rides new. Any parts that need to be replaced at time of frame re-do will be done for parts only. For those that DON'T KNOW... Dana tried pulling a fast one and changed the spec's on the steel formula resulting in premature penetration ( I'll bet you don't see that quote often). If you have one of these Tundras, re-joice, as you'll tool around in a nice rental, courtesy of Dana while it takes 3 weeks for the job once the Toyota engineers brain slam the technique. Failing this you'll probably get the much sought after buy-out, which for the Tacomas was 1.5 KBB including ALL OPTIONS and ACCESSORIES on your truck. I was PO'ed when my frame failed the "hammer test" but now I have a truck with extremely low cost and a strong likelihood to last 10 more years. YES, Toyota fully stands behind their product and their customers, for me there is no other! Thank You Toyota!!!

 

[02SE]

Originally Posted By: H2GURU
These Tundra owners have it MADE! I had the frame done on my Tacoma and the truck rides new. Any parts that need to be replaced at time of frame re-do will be done for parts only. For those that DON'T KNOW... Dana tried pulling a fast one and changed the spec's on the steel formula resulting in premature penetration ( I'll bet you don't see that quote often). If you have one of these Tundras, re-joice, as you'll tool around in a nice rental, courtesy of Dana while it takes 3 weeks for the job once the Toyota engineers brain slam the technique. Failing this you'll probably get the much sought after buy-out, which for the Tacomas was 1.5 KBB including ALL OPTIONS and ACCESSORIES on your truck. I was PO'ed when my frame failed the "hammer test" but now I have a truck with extremely low cost and a strong likelihood to last 10 more years. YES, Toyota fully stands behind their product and their customers, for me there is no other! Thank You Toyota!!!


I rest my case. NOT a Toyota problem, but a Dana Corporation problem.

 

[Drew99GT]

Kinda like how the 6.0L and 6.4L Powerstroke flamethrowers aren't Ford's problem.