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Not really. Is the Pinto comparable to the F-150 now? I mean, if we are doing ridiculous comparisons we might as well go all the way
Purchased a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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Not really. Is the Pinto comparable to the F-150 now? I mean, if we are doing ridiculous comparisons we might as well go all the way
That thing is a joke off road. It's good for getting to Whole Foods in light snow. I've never seen a Passport on any of the Jeep trails.
That's good to know about the improvement. Makes sense what you're saying.
How many newer JGC's are taken "on any of the Jeep trails", would you say? I mean, if you really want to talk about offroad, Nissan Patrol, Hilux, these are the sorts of things to be discussing. Not some JGC with radar adaptive cruise, lol
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My SRT has done some light trails back to the hunting camp, and in deep snow to boot, but due to it being an SRT and not having the raise/lower ability like the Trailhawk and other non-sport oriented Jeeps, its ability to clear obstacles is a bit limited. It does not want for traction; the most capable AWD system I've ever had the pleasure of piloting, though the tip-in and power characteristics of the 6.4L can be a bit fun to manage (4 rooster tails of snow just touching the pedal on a hill, had to bog it down with the paddle shifters) and the 3.6L is much easier to manipulate in that regard as would I expect be the 5.7L with more progressive throttles. The electronic rear diff on the SRT is an improvement over the open diff we had on the Durango though, even though the Durango had much better pedal manners.
Fake news! everyone knows no one takes Grand Cherokees with radar cruise off road! LOL
Not quite.
Off-Road in Texas with the 2019 Honda Passport - JuSt WOW! - YouTube
Why I purchased a Honda Passport (Off-road oriented crossover) and why you should or shouldn't - YouTube
2019 Honda Passport Elite AWD Off Road Evaluation - YouTube
Can the 2019 Honda Passport Actually Go Offroad? Everything You Need to Know (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube
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Yes, the ones I go on are not extremely difficult trails, though they are often made more treacherous by the presence of ice and snow. I thought I was done for last year, I was going up a cottage road and it went total ice. Got in to where I thought I needed to be and discovered it was the wrong property. While having climbed up the sheer ice slope wasn't overly difficult, going back down and coming into a turn it was REALLY slippery but she made it. I thought for sure I was going straight ahead into the trees.
none of those are impressive off roading videos. any crossover can do those. Let me ask this, how many manufacturers make lifts, winch mounts, rock rails, snorkels etc for them? I can get any of those for my Jeeps.
We bought one just over a year ago to replace our old sold 4Runner, specifically to take on trails and for winter driving. Everyone has their priorities.
I think it's great when people use their off road vehicles for off-roading.
You're mixing hardcore rock crawlers with SUV level of performance. Not every crossover could do what the Passport can. A Passport is not a Wrangler though and should never be compared to one. Completely different focus.
Nice vehicle, congratulations!
And as usual, some just can't keep their negative comments to themselves.
And as usual, some just can't keep their negative comments to themselves.
I can get all of those items for my Renegade or Cherokee or Liberty. They're not hardcore Wranglers. Just crossovers that have true off road abilities and don't just look the part like the Passport.
I appraise trade ins at a Ram store. I see 10 - 15 Rams in a week. 2010 - 2019 are the most common I see. Quite a few off brands as well, Chev, GMC and Fords
I also approve the repairs after the appraisal, so I have an end to end view on what it costs for repairs.
In general, at 100,000 miles, a Ram may need a new front axle, $500, maybe a front diff for $800. Manifolds for the Hemi - $1200, all Rams with pedal parking brake need a EBrake kit for about $1000. If they were actually operated, they wouldn't seize up and need replacement.
Then it is cosmetics - all owner caused. If the front corners of the hood corrode, it is covered under warranty for 5 years, and an attentive owner will get that repaired under warranty.
I have yet to see a bad 8-speed.
Any GM truck at 100,000 miles is an electrical nightmare, and it usually needs to go to dealer for their specialized scanners.
Just appraised a 2015 Ford XLT with the 2.7L Ecoboost and 90,000 miles. My system appraised it at $4000 less than a similar Ram. That tells me the market is worried about the turbo motors. Any higher mileage Ford Ecoboost throw up warning flags, and we go to auction with these, just not worth the head aches in repairing them.
Yeah those are nice. I believe you can get lockers in the Renegade/Cherokee so that's clearly an advantage.
The i-VTM4 shouldn't be underestimated though. Can send 70% of the power to the rear and 100% left or right. True torque vectoring. This system for 90% of what you encounter is fantastic. But again it's not designed for Jeep like trails.
I don't think the Passport is trying to look the part. I think its focus is different and shifted more for better on road capabilities.
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