I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fact it's not black.
2024 Grand Cherokee L Summit Reserve
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And for god's sake why is that person drilling holes in it already?I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fact it's not black.
JK
OVERKILL
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Their Expedition was white, it's my wife that's obsessed with black vehicles, lol.I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fact it's not black.
I went on the American Jeep website and all the Grand Cherokees are only available with the V6 Pentastar engine for both 2024 and 2025 model years.
Since when does Canada have more options than US?
Since when does Canada have more options than US?
OVERKILL
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The Canadian site is just out of date, these were the last 2024's he could order with the HEMI.
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Nice ride.
Though I think I might be missing a chapter here. I thought they already replaced the Expedition with a Wagoneer or something?
Though I think I might be missing a chapter here. I thought they already replaced the Expedition with a Wagoneer or something?
OVERKILL
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Nope, they LOOKED at a Wagoneer, and a Grand Cherokee and then later an Expedition, weighing their options; figuring out what was available as a replacement but didn't pull the trigger until last week. It has been quite an adventure.
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Mom and dad stopped by the other day, so I snapped a pic of it all dressed for winter, covered in salt, rocking its repro wheels and Michelin snows (first vehicle my dad has ever put snow tires on!). They got it sprayed at Krown, so it has already been rustproofed for its first winter. Dad is finally comfortable driving it now, so they are out in it a lot more than they were at first.
I love they way they look and really liked that you could get the proven 5.7L N/A V8 in them until recently. Very nice interior but the acres of shiny black plastic kill an otherwise premium interior look for me. They certainly sound like long term owners so I'm sure it will serve them well for many years; if they were the type to trade often, the resale value is catastrophic.
You know you're Canadian when you drive with your window down in Winter...
OVERKILL
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Yeah, the shiny black plastic isn't my favourite thing either, but it's the same on other marques too
OVERKILL
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~6 month update:
Summer tires are back on, I talked to the SA and requested the first oil change early (it has ~1,000km on it right now), so that was completed. We towed the tin boat up to the cottage with it, dad needs a drop-hitch, so I'm going to give him my stainless one, since my current GC doesn't have a tow package and we already have a hitch setup for the RAM. It, expectedly, towed the little guy like it wasn't there. Dad seemed very comfortable towing with it (this is the first thing he's pulled with it), and loves that the receiver is otherwise hidden. Hitch and straps just fit in the underfloor bin, which he's a big fan of.
They've made several trips to Toronto with it and dad seems to have a good handle on the adaptive cruise. He does get confused by the million menu options in the display, I've had to show him how to get back to the regular gauges. He's comfortable with the drive modes, though I think the only one he's used is "Snow", otherwise it stays on Auto.
All-in-all, they are very happy with it at this point. Will update once they get some more miles on it. They really don't drive a lot, so it takes a while for them to hit mileage milestones.
Summer tires are back on, I talked to the SA and requested the first oil change early (it has ~1,000km on it right now), so that was completed. We towed the tin boat up to the cottage with it, dad needs a drop-hitch, so I'm going to give him my stainless one, since my current GC doesn't have a tow package and we already have a hitch setup for the RAM. It, expectedly, towed the little guy like it wasn't there. Dad seemed very comfortable towing with it (this is the first thing he's pulled with it), and loves that the receiver is otherwise hidden. Hitch and straps just fit in the underfloor bin, which he's a big fan of.
They've made several trips to Toronto with it and dad seems to have a good handle on the adaptive cruise. He does get confused by the million menu options in the display, I've had to show him how to get back to the regular gauges. He's comfortable with the drive modes, though I think the only one he's used is "Snow", otherwise it stays on Auto.
All-in-all, they are very happy with it at this point. Will update once they get some more miles on it. They really don't drive a lot, so it takes a while for them to hit mileage milestones.
OVERKILL
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Another update!
My wife's rental coverage ran out (as noted in the VW review thread) and so I'm currently borrowing this vehicle. We had a slight issue, as my dad had relocated where he was storing the key (effectively 2ft from the vehicle) and it sat for about 8 weeks, so this combo killed the battery. He's been driving his 2003 Town Car (his "summer car") and the Jeep has been sitting.
This little experience brings us back to the conversation I was having with @edyvw in another thread about charging and vehicles with two batteries and other weirdness. Apparently, this vehicle is one of the ones that has the concerns that he mentioned (unlike my old WK2).
It was stone dead. So, used the key in the fob to open it and pop the hood. Accessed the jumper terminals under the hood, but there wasn't enough current being moved to jump it, but it did get all the electronics working. Put a battery charger on these posts (MISTAKE!!) and let it sit overnight. It was stone dead 24hrs later. When I talked to my buddy at the dealer about the situation, he said "it's probably the 2nd, big battery under the driver's seat that's dead", which I assumed, was what I was charging with the under-hood booster posts (and he didn't argue otherwise). WRONG. I figured I had nothing to lose with trying to charge the battery directly, so I hooked the jumper cables back up again so I could move the seat, slid it forward, removed the battery cover and hooked up the little 4A charger. Gave it about 30 minutes and it was alive and tried to start, but didn't quite have enough juice. Gave it 4hrs, it was good to go and fired right up.
It was very unhappy.
Lots of valvetrain noise that seemed to take forever to go away (in reality, it was probably like 30-45 seconds) which my dad, understandably, found disconcerting. Let it run for about 10 minutes, then hooked the charger back up and agreed to let it charge overnight, while he located the keys upstairs, and not 2ft from the vehicle
Sidebar: Dad had been storing the keys upstairs, where I had told him to put them, to avoid relay theft (even though it is in a garage). However, when he stopped driving it and switched to the car, he feared that he'd forget where he put them, so he hung them up at the back door with all the other house keys, which is literally on the other side of the garage wall and about 24" to the rear of the vehicle.
Next day, it fired up and sounded fine. Took it up to the dealer to have the battery tested, it failed (not surprising), so they put a new one in.
I've put about 240km on it in the few days I've had it, so I can now compare it more thoroughly with my WK2.
They are VERY different vehicles.
This thing rides like a Tahoe/Expedition. It feels big and heavy and certainly not nimble. It floats along, the suspension is wonderful, eats up the bumps, it's a very relaxing, albeit, not very engaging driving experience. It feels very "luxury old guy", which, admittedly, is perfect for my dad. It has extremely good sound deadening, the seats are extremely comfortable and the McIntosh stereo is absolutely fantastic (better than my HK). The interior quietness was most noticeable during handsfree phone calls, it was almost coffin quiet.
Got back in the SRT this evening to do some running around and it felt positively athletic after driving the WL. It feels light and nimble, which are characteristics I'd not have been inclined to ascribe to it before this, lol (objectively, it is a pretty heavy vehicle).
This is amusing, because there really isn't much of a weight difference between them. The SRT curbs at 5,104lbs (mine would be slightly lighter due to the sunroof and tow package delete), while the GC-L V8 curbs at 5,377lbs.
I've implored my father to drive it a bit more and he's agreed to do so, so I expect that with this, and the relocation of the key fobs to a location where the vehicle can't constantly "see" them, it should ensure that he doesn't end up killing the battery again.
My wife's rental coverage ran out (as noted in the VW review thread) and so I'm currently borrowing this vehicle. We had a slight issue, as my dad had relocated where he was storing the key (effectively 2ft from the vehicle) and it sat for about 8 weeks, so this combo killed the battery. He's been driving his 2003 Town Car (his "summer car") and the Jeep has been sitting.
This little experience brings us back to the conversation I was having with @edyvw in another thread about charging and vehicles with two batteries and other weirdness. Apparently, this vehicle is one of the ones that has the concerns that he mentioned (unlike my old WK2).
It was stone dead. So, used the key in the fob to open it and pop the hood. Accessed the jumper terminals under the hood, but there wasn't enough current being moved to jump it, but it did get all the electronics working. Put a battery charger on these posts (MISTAKE!!) and let it sit overnight. It was stone dead 24hrs later. When I talked to my buddy at the dealer about the situation, he said "it's probably the 2nd, big battery under the driver's seat that's dead", which I assumed, was what I was charging with the under-hood booster posts (and he didn't argue otherwise). WRONG. I figured I had nothing to lose with trying to charge the battery directly, so I hooked the jumper cables back up again so I could move the seat, slid it forward, removed the battery cover and hooked up the little 4A charger. Gave it about 30 minutes and it was alive and tried to start, but didn't quite have enough juice. Gave it 4hrs, it was good to go and fired right up.
It was very unhappy.
Lots of valvetrain noise that seemed to take forever to go away (in reality, it was probably like 30-45 seconds) which my dad, understandably, found disconcerting. Let it run for about 10 minutes, then hooked the charger back up and agreed to let it charge overnight, while he located the keys upstairs, and not 2ft from the vehicle
Sidebar: Dad had been storing the keys upstairs, where I had told him to put them, to avoid relay theft (even though it is in a garage). However, when he stopped driving it and switched to the car, he feared that he'd forget where he put them, so he hung them up at the back door with all the other house keys, which is literally on the other side of the garage wall and about 24" to the rear of the vehicle.
Next day, it fired up and sounded fine. Took it up to the dealer to have the battery tested, it failed (not surprising), so they put a new one in.
I've put about 240km on it in the few days I've had it, so I can now compare it more thoroughly with my WK2.
They are VERY different vehicles.
This thing rides like a Tahoe/Expedition. It feels big and heavy and certainly not nimble. It floats along, the suspension is wonderful, eats up the bumps, it's a very relaxing, albeit, not very engaging driving experience. It feels very "luxury old guy", which, admittedly, is perfect for my dad. It has extremely good sound deadening, the seats are extremely comfortable and the McIntosh stereo is absolutely fantastic (better than my HK). The interior quietness was most noticeable during handsfree phone calls, it was almost coffin quiet.
Got back in the SRT this evening to do some running around and it felt positively athletic after driving the WL. It feels light and nimble, which are characteristics I'd not have been inclined to ascribe to it before this, lol (objectively, it is a pretty heavy vehicle).
This is amusing, because there really isn't much of a weight difference between them. The SRT curbs at 5,104lbs (mine would be slightly lighter due to the sunroof and tow package delete), while the GC-L V8 curbs at 5,377lbs.
I've implored my father to drive it a bit more and he's agreed to do so, so I expect that with this, and the relocation of the key fobs to a location where the vehicle can't constantly "see" them, it should ensure that he doesn't end up killing the battery again.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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So, you just had to replace one of them? Even though they cost more, for years I have preferred dealership batteries.Another update!
My wife's rental coverage ran out (as noted in the VW review thread) and so I'm currently borrowing this vehicle. We had a slight issue, as my dad had relocated where he was storing the key (effectively 2ft from the vehicle) and it sat for about 8 weeks, so this combo killed the battery. He's been driving his 2003 Town Car (his "summer car") and the Jeep has been sitting.
This little experience brings us back to the conversation I was having with @edyvw in another thread about charging and vehicles with two batteries and other weirdness. Apparently, this vehicle is one of the ones that has the concerns that he mentioned (unlike my old WK2).
It was stone dead. So, used the key in the fob to open it and pop the hood. Accessed the jumper terminals under the hood, but there wasn't enough current being moved to jump it, but it did get all the electronics working. Put a battery charger on these posts (MISTAKE!!) and let it sit overnight. It was stone dead 24hrs later. When I talked to my buddy at the dealer about the situation, he said "it's probably the 2nd, big battery under the driver's seat that's dead", which I assumed, was what I was charging with the under-hood booster posts (and he didn't argue otherwise). WRONG. I figured I had nothing to lose with trying to charge the battery directly, so I hooked the jumper cables back up again so I could move the seat, slid it forward, removed the battery cover and hooked up the little 4A charger. Gave it about 30 minutes and it was alive and tried to start, but didn't quite have enough juice. Gave it 4hrs, it was good to go and fired right up.
It was very unhappy.
Lots of valvetrain noise that seemed to take forever to go away (in reality, it was probably like 30-45 seconds) which my dad, understandably, found disconcerting. Let it run for about 10 minutes, then hooked the charger back up and agreed to let it charge overnight, while he located the keys upstairs, and not 2ft from the vehicle
Sidebar: Dad had been storing the keys upstairs, where I had told him to put them, to avoid relay theft (even though it is in a garage). However, when he stopped driving it and switched to the car, he feared that he'd forget where he put them, so he hung them up at the back door with all the other house keys, which is literally on the other side of the garage wall and about 24" to the rear of the vehicle.
Next day, it fired up and sounded fine. Took it up to the dealer to have the battery tested, it failed (not surprising), so they put a new one in.
I've put about 240km on it in the few days I've had it, so I can now compare it more thoroughly with my WK2.
They are VERY different vehicles.
This thing rides like a Tahoe/Expedition. It feels big and heavy and certainly not nimble. It floats along, the suspension is wonderful, eats up the bumps, it's a very relaxing, albeit, not very engaging driving experience. It feels very "luxury old guy", which, admittedly, is perfect for my dad. It has extremely good sound deadening, the seats are extremely comfortable and the McIntosh stereo is absolutely fantastic (better than my HK). The interior quietness was most noticeable during handsfree phone calls, it was almost coffin quiet.
Got back in the SRT this evening to do some running around and it felt positively athletic after driving the WL. It feels light and nimble, which are characteristics I'd not have been inclined to ascribe to it before this, lol (objectively, it is a pretty heavy vehicle).
This is amusing, because there really isn't much of a weight difference between them. The SRT curbs at 5,104lbs (mine would be slightly lighter due to the sunroof and tow package delete), while the GC-L V8 curbs at 5,377lbs.
I've implored my father to drive it a bit more and he's agreed to do so, so I expect that with this, and the relocation of the key fobs to a location where the vehicle can't constantly "see" them, it should ensure that he doesn't end up killing the battery again.
Some will say (imagination) but I find they seem stronger and last longer for me. Been doing that since I had my Ford Bronco and Ford trucks before I retired.
Several mechanics I worked with told me they had been doing the same. Going with warrantied replacement batteries from their dealerships as well. I don't get every single one there. But when convenient and we are not rushed, I still purchase them there. I really like how they will replace totally free up to a certain amount of months after purchase. In this area , warranties are a bit better than other places.
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OVERKILL
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Yes, we always get OE batteries.
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I must say that those seats look very nice, and although I've not sat in them, they appear to have more bolstering on the sides than GM...
Also got curious on why there would be two batteries....appears to be for engine stop/start. I was thinking along the lines of my wife's cousin's ex who has a RAM 2500 and there are two full sized batteries under the hood....my understanding is in that case, they're in parallel to provide more amp hours.
Thinking that such a setup would strain the alternator? It has 2 lol
Also got curious on why there would be two batteries....appears to be for engine stop/start. I was thinking along the lines of my wife's cousin's ex who has a RAM 2500 and there are two full sized batteries under the hood....my understanding is in that case, they're in parallel to provide more amp hours.
Thinking that such a setup would strain the alternator? It has 2 lol
OVERKILL
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I have not verified if this vehicle actually has two batteries, but my buddy that owns the dealership seems to think it does, and I'd think he knows better than me. I suspect it's for the auto start stop, on vehicles so equipped, but this vehicle does not have auto start stop due to the powertrain selection.
These 2500s get converted into ambulances and other commercial type vehicles that have a ton of electronics, I can see why there would be a need for two alternators in a lot of use cases.
