Out with the Audi & In with a Pilot

[MrJayhawk]

Not the same system, the one on the 60's Plymouth was a real mechanical nightmare with cables for the buttons and another finicky cable setup for the park lever on the side of the buttons that locked out the buttons unless the lever was in the up position. Modern ones are just electric button switches, easy to replace as a module.

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My parents had one of those and I forget how many times they had to have it fixed as button would jam in place.

 

[z71bill]

I like Honda's push button shift just fine. Have two of them with it. No need for a large shifter handle to take up space in my console and no need to put it in park when I stop, just hit the power button. Large buttons that are shaped to be easy to use by feel.

When all the complicated things that must happen for these new style gear shifters go haywire after warranty expires I will guess the bill to fix them will be a shocker.

Millions of older vehicles on the road with conventional gear shifters without any issues.

Does anyone think these shifters will be as reliable?

Because I don't.

Same with all the large touch screens that control everything - I would rather just have a switch to turn on the AC or whatever and not have to scroll through screens to do something that I use to be able to do without even taking my eyes off the road.

Just the opinion of a crabby old man!

 

[z71bill]

Not the same system, the one on the 60's Plymouth was a real mechanical nightmare with cables for the buttons and another finicky cable setup for the park lever on the side of the buttons that locked out the buttons unless the lever was in the up position. Modern ones are just electric button switches, easy to replace as a module.

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My buddy could get a squeal from his tires by getting up to about 40 MPH and then downshifting - he also installed a really small steering wheel and of course chrome wheels!

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

When all the complicated things that must happen for these new style gear shifters go haywire after warranty expires I will guess the bill to fix them will be a shocker.

Millions of older vehicles on the road with conventional gear shifters without any issues.

Does anyone think these shifters will be as reliable?

Because I don't.

Same with all the large touch screens that control everything - I would rather just have a switch to turn on the AC or whatever and not have to scroll through screens to do something that I use to be able to do without even taking my eyes off the road.

Just the opinion of a crabby old man!

They're incredibly reliable which is why they've been used for decades.

 

[z71bill]

They're incredibly reliable which is why they've been used for decades.

What % of vehicles used push button shifter over the last 30-40 years?

I can only think of a few - is it even enough of a % to make a reliability claim?

It is also reliable VS a "normal" gear shifter.

My high school GF had a Vega with a 4 speed manual - she would somehow get it jammed between gears and I would reach under and shake something and it would shift again. So anything can jam - course the Vega had other issues too.

Steel linkage VS circuit boards and electric motors all hooked together with wires and computer chips - I will be surprised if all of this tech crap is still working 20 years from now.

Since I am 67 the chance I will have to deal with it is slim.

 

[oil pan 4]

How often do you see an old Audi?
They're great cars just not for very long.