PUP's fall from grace over the last 10 years?

I'd happily run PUP in anything of mine.

Its fantastic product that--

1.You cant find on a shelf 97% of the time.

2. When you do find it its priced at boutique oil levels.

3. Online retailers lie about having it to get your order, then the shipment gets delayed because they don't.

For a similar price we can buy superior oil, get it reliably delivered, exercise a relationship with the Vendor themselves which is unbelievably rare in this day and age, we've been invited to the factory.

Their lab is well known, reported on and vetted by legit tribologists and or lubrication experts we know and trust.

It's not that PUP has fallen so much as the boutique supplier provides so much more.
 
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What makes it ultra? has less approvals/certs than regular PP.. and hard to find.
Valvoline makes better motor oil than Pennzoil. But it's not like Pennz is bad stuff or anything, your average car will run on it just fine.
The basis of this authoritative statement is?
 
Its never on the Walmart shelf. The rebate is not accepted for online purchases. Plenty of cheaper brews - M1EP, Valvoline EP, Castrol Edge - all cheaper and on the shelf.

Shell PLC came out with QS Ultimate Protection, and now you can't find it either. Seems like there not all that interested in the high end DIY market anymore?

I think now that most here are sticking with short OCI, the GTL base stock thing isn't important or needed.
 
I love this place! We argue about differences in world-class oils, as if it really matters in our engines!

I'd run Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra Platinum in my car without blinking an eye. Find something else to worry about.
It doesn't matter to the oil manufacturers either that we argue. The vast majority of the population has bigger worries than what type of oil it's in their engine. Most people couldn't tell you what they run.
 
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