OW-16 vs 0W-20 viscosity specs - does it really matter.

[DirectRejection]

I did notice a profound difference in performance, comparing a Lexus UX loaner driving on Toyota/Lexus 0W16, driven for 1,000 miles vs my current Corolla Cross driven on HPL PP 0W8. Both vehicles have the M20A-FKS engine (2.0L).

I would expect little or no difference 0W16 vs 0W20 across the board with the 2.5L Camry engine from the same engine series.

 

[billt460]

Does anyone really think that Camry engine will know the difference between 0w-16 and 0w-20? The virgin viscosity for of the same grade will be slightly different based on the brand.

No. Not anyone that has the slightest hint about oil. But it doesn't really matter, because the manual stresses the importance of 0W-16 so much, they even go as far as to say that if you use 0W-20, you have to switch back to 0W-16 at the next oil change.

People who are clueless about oil buy into that nonsense. You'll even see them make arguments to that effect right here. In spite of the fact it mentions oils up to 15W-40 as being perfectly acceptable in the same exact engine in other countries that are not affected by CAFE.

 

[Al]

0W-20 vs 0W-16 is stupid vs stupider. Go with 5W-30

 

[SavetheRimBrake]

0W-20 vs 0W-16 is stupid vs stupider. Go with 5W-30

10w-50* thicker is always better

 

[930.engineering]

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I'd bet when swapping from some 0W-16/20 to 10W-50 you'll actually notice the drag. I felt my GTI a tad sluggish even when I used 5W-40 after 0W-30 before. Just imagination? I don't think so. 5W-30 is my golden mean.
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[SubieRubyRoo]

It is why I'm rockin a home blend 0W-24 Mobil 1

Doesn’t work that way, there’s no “24 grade”. It’s either a 20 or 30 grade dependent on its KV100.

 

[OVERKILL]

Doesn’t work that way, there’s no “24 grade”. It’s either a 20 or 30 grade dependent on its KV100.

Why this refuses to die is beyond me.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Doesn’t work that way, there’s no “24 grade”. It’s either a 20 or 30 grade dependent on its KV100.

It's a 40% above the "thinnest" 20 grade.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

It's a 40% above the "thinnest" 20 grade.

Wouldn’t it be 20%? 40% over the thinnest 20 grade would be a 28… and anything more than 50% thicker is a 30 lol

 

[ZeeOSix]

Wouldn’t it be 20%? 40% over the thinnest 20 grade would be a 28… and anything more than 50% thicker is a 30 lol

Numerically, 24 is 40% of the way between 20 and 30.

 

[OVERKILL]

Doesn’t work that way, there’s no “24 grade”. It’s either a 20 or 30 grade dependent on its KV100.

This is like the craft beer of the PCMO scene, except this is somebody mixing bud and bud light and then claiming they've come up with a "unique hand-crafted, organic, medium-bodied hybrid-pilsner".

 

[billt460]

Wouldn’t it be 20%? 40% over the thinnest 20 grade would be a 28… and anything more than 50% thicker is a 30

No. You're not looking at this from the proper perspective....

0W-20 X 5 Quarts = 0W-100.

The multiplier continues at a constant rate dependant on the cravtiz of the equation itself. And no, there is no Doppler effect north of the 32nd parallel. You people always have to over complicate these things.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Numerically, 24 is 40% of the way between 20 and 30.

Okay, I was multiplying not finding ratio between

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

This is like the craft beer of the PCMO scene, except this is somebody mixing bud and bud light and then claiming they've come up with a "unique hand-crafted, organic, medium-bodied hybrid-pilsner".

There’s nothing hand-crafted about Bud and Bud light. I’ve seen their process

 

[ZeeOSix]

There is a "mixology" tool here, based on the ratio of viscosities mixed. The resulting mix viscosity can then be compared to SAE J300 to determine where it sits in the grading system of J300.

https://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Mixtures.html

 

[kschachn]

There’s nothing hand-crafted about Bud and Bud light. I’ve seen their process

And a rather lame tour as far as I'm concerned, at least at the St. Louis facility. You hardly see the actual operation at all, the only thing I found particularly interesting was when they tell you that "beechwood aging" doesn't really mean anything. Many craft brewers (at least here in Wisconsin) take you on a much more instructive tour.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

And a rather lame tour as far as I'm concerned, at least at the St. Louis facility. You hardly see the actual operation at all, the only thing I found particularly interesting was when they tell you that "beechwood aging" doesn't really mean anything. Many craft brewers (at least here in Wisconsin) take you on a much more instructive tour.

Yeah, agree on the public tour worthlessness but it wasn’t that tour. We supply AB about 3 billion beer bottles per year (well, we did before the whole Dylan Mulvaney snafu at least). Beer cans are filled at 3000 per minute and 12oz bottles at 1200 per minute.

 

[OVERKILL]

There’s nothing hand-crafted about Bud and Bud light. I’ve seen their process

That's my point, lol. Mixing two grades of Mobil 1 doesn't make you a craft oil maker, lol.

 

[Rogueman2016s]

I don’t see any real world difference between the two. On a dynamometer in a controlled environment lol maybe there would be some real mpg gain. A lot of these new oil pumps are electronically motor driven and variable it’ll do just fine 0w16 or 0w20.

 

[OVERKILL]

I don’t see any real world difference between the two. On a dynamometer in a controlled environment lol maybe there would be some real mpg gain. A lot of these new oil pumps are electronically motor driven and variable it’ll do just fine 0w16 or 0w20.

There are many that are variable displacement, and electronically controlled, but the last time we had this conversation on here, the "electronically motor driven" pump wasn't, somebody was misreading something.