These products do more than clean injectors. They also clean intake valves, combustion chambers, and other areas fuel flows through along with providing an UCL for some products. There have been studies that showed PEA (common additive ingredient) does clean these items.
New RP Fuel System Cleaner/Stabilizer
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Originally Posted By: robshelton
I am a faithful RedLine fuel system cleaner user
How do you dose that product?
I am a faithful RedLine fuel system cleaner user
How do you dose that product?
Thanks for the heads-up on a new product.
Will probably show up on shelves up here soon, as RP is becoming very popular in retail stores here - we sell a decent amount of API SN RP at my Canadian Tire Store.
Benson Auto also sells a ot of RP...will probably show up there first.
Will probably show up on shelves up here soon, as RP is becoming very popular in retail stores here - we sell a decent amount of API SN RP at my Canadian Tire Store.
Benson Auto also sells a ot of RP...will probably show up there first.
Have yet to see it in a store. Wouldn't mind trying it in the truck once a year.
Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
How do you dose that product?
Instructions are on the RL bottle, and we still have markings on the bottles up here, too.
How do you dose that product?
Instructions are on the RL bottle, and we still have markings on the bottles up here, too.
I'm sure this will be well-received, there are hardly any fuel system cleaners on the market.
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Originally Posted By: Tuffy1760
Have yet to see it in a store. Wouldn't mind trying it in the truck once a year.
I bought a bottle. That is how I discovered it.
Me too. I noticed that it stabilizes fuel and also cleans. So the way I look at it, it replaces two products that I currently use: (1) Sta-Bil, and (2) Techron. One bottle of this is still cheaper than buying a bottle each of StaBil and Techron. Here is where I found it:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rpo-11722
Originally Posted By: Tuffy1760
Have yet to see it in a store. Wouldn't mind trying it in the truck once a year.
I bought a bottle. That is how I discovered it.
Me too. I noticed that it stabilizes fuel and also cleans. So the way I look at it, it replaces two products that I currently use: (1) Sta-Bil, and (2) Techron. One bottle of this is still cheaper than buying a bottle each of StaBil and Techron. Here is where I found it:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rpo-11722
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Originally Posted By: milkboy
I'm sure this will be well-received, there are hardly any fuel system cleaners on the market.
You mean there are hardly any good fuel system cleaners on the market.
I'm sure this will be well-received, there are hardly any fuel system cleaners on the market.
You mean there are hardly any good fuel system cleaners on the market.
FWIW, this product has been getting rave, rave reviews.
I use Redline's fuel additive, but this one has me thinking.
And any thoughts as to why Seafoam and STP Motor Treatment have the same bottle?
I use Redline's fuel additive, but this one has me thinking.
And any thoughts as to why Seafoam and STP Motor Treatment have the same bottle?
If it is priced in line with the RL product I'd give it a try.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If it is priced in line with the RL product I'd give it a try.
SI-1 seems to be about $11 a bottle on amazon.com and this stuff seems to be about $15 on amazon.com - I just wonder what it has in it.
It is obviously better than Seafoam, hey even STP is supposed to be better than the Seafoam which does some things well and some things maybe not so much idk, but the similarity of the RP bottle to these three is something I cant shake.
So far, the reviews have been fairly generic, but they have all been 5 stars. Only one stupid 3-star because he said he didn't know it was a tank additive.. how dumb.
Linky http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-11722...+system+cleaner
If it is priced in line with the RL product I'd give it a try.
SI-1 seems to be about $11 a bottle on amazon.com and this stuff seems to be about $15 on amazon.com - I just wonder what it has in it.
It is obviously better than Seafoam, hey even STP is supposed to be better than the Seafoam which does some things well and some things maybe not so much idk, but the similarity of the RP bottle to these three is something I cant shake.
So far, the reviews have been fairly generic, but they have all been 5 stars. Only one stupid 3-star because he said he didn't know it was a tank additive.. how dumb.
Linky http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-11722...+system+cleaner
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Get this
POLYETHER AMINE Trade Secret 30 - 60 % by WT
3M™ Max Strength Fuel System Cleaner, 08814 UPC# 00 051135 08814 2 3M ID 60455031918
Price: $14.99 Bottle
http://www.shop3m.com/60455031918.html
Read the Amazon reviews for the RP product. There are four of them
Review# 1) oops wrong product
Review# 2) have yet to test the product
Review# 3) product really works!
Review# 4) I can't believe I used the whole can!
POLYETHER AMINE Trade Secret 30 - 60 % by WT
3M™ Max Strength Fuel System Cleaner, 08814 UPC# 00 051135 08814 2 3M ID 60455031918
Price: $14.99 Bottle
http://www.shop3m.com/60455031918.html
Read the Amazon reviews for the RP product. There are four of them
Review# 1) oops wrong product
Review# 2) have yet to test the product
Review# 3) product really works!
Review# 4) I can't believe I used the whole can!
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Originally Posted By: mikered30
It only has 5.0 – 15.0 % of PEA. Yawn.
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meh - it seems overpriced. 20oz - yeah, lots of cheap fillers! I also think Redline is overpriced, though, FWIW.
Gumout "all in one" usually gives best value - treats 30gal for ~$7 (Walmart or on sale at auto stores)
It only has 5.0 – 15.0 % of PEA. Yawn.
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meh - it seems overpriced. 20oz - yeah, lots of cheap fillers! I also think Redline is overpriced, though, FWIW.
Gumout "all in one" usually gives best value - treats 30gal for ~$7 (Walmart or on sale at auto stores)
Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
FWIW, this product has been getting rave, rave reviews.
I use Redline's fuel additive, but this one has me thinking.
And any thoughts as to why Seafoam and STP Motor Treatment have the same bottle?
Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
It is obviously better than Seafoam, hey even STP is supposed to be better than the Seafoam which does some things well and some things maybe not so much idk, but the similarity of the RP bottle to these three is something I cant shake.
I can't comment on the STP but the RP bottle and Seafoam bottle are NOT the same. RP is taller. I think it is just a case of a new bottle type being used by multiple mfg's. I will see if I can get a photo of the 3 bottles side by side or at least get measurements.
FWIW, this product has been getting rave, rave reviews.
I use Redline's fuel additive, but this one has me thinking.
And any thoughts as to why Seafoam and STP Motor Treatment have the same bottle?
Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
It is obviously better than Seafoam, hey even STP is supposed to be better than the Seafoam which does some things well and some things maybe not so much idk, but the similarity of the RP bottle to these three is something I cant shake.
I can't comment on the STP but the RP bottle and Seafoam bottle are NOT the same. RP is taller. I think it is just a case of a new bottle type being used by multiple mfg's. I will see if I can get a photo of the 3 bottles side by side or at least get measurements.
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Originally Posted By: mikered30
It only has 5.0 – 15.0 % of PEA. Yawn.
I already posted about this on another thread regarding RP's Max-Clean. But the bottom line is that polyether amine (i.e. PEA) is a generic term that is used to describe a number of different proprietary chemical compounds, all of which come in different formulae and concentrations. So just looking at the range of PEA designated on a product's MSDS doesn't tell you jack sh*t.
... and neither does the shape or physical characteristics of the container in which it is packaged.
It only has 5.0 – 15.0 % of PEA. Yawn.
I already posted about this on another thread regarding RP's Max-Clean. But the bottom line is that polyether amine (i.e. PEA) is a generic term that is used to describe a number of different proprietary chemical compounds, all of which come in different formulae and concentrations. So just looking at the range of PEA designated on a product's MSDS doesn't tell you jack sh*t.
... and neither does the shape or physical characteristics of the container in which it is packaged.
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Originally Posted By: Vikas
OK then, educate on us how to objectively find the better cleaner.
I would suggest that you request from the manufacturer the results to the following tests: (1) Intake Valve Deposit (IVD) Cleanup using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle, (2) Combustion Chamber Deposit (CCD) Cleanup using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle, and (3) US06 Fuel Economy Increase using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle. They should be able to provide BMW 318 and/or Ford 2.3L cleanup results for these three categories, as they are the most commonly-used test mules.
They should also be able to provide you with PFI and DI injector flow increase data, post-clean.
When it comes to fuel stabilization, they should be able to provide you with ASTM D525 results.
If they can't provide you with these types of test results, this should tell you something. If they can provide you with these types of test results, then you can use them to compare how the product performs versus others.
This is the process by which you can go about objectively finding the better/best cleaner/stabilizer.
OK then, educate on us how to objectively find the better cleaner.
I would suggest that you request from the manufacturer the results to the following tests: (1) Intake Valve Deposit (IVD) Cleanup using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle, (2) Combustion Chamber Deposit (CCD) Cleanup using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle, and (3) US06 Fuel Economy Increase using the ASTM D5500 Simulated Cycle. They should be able to provide BMW 318 and/or Ford 2.3L cleanup results for these three categories, as they are the most commonly-used test mules.
They should also be able to provide you with PFI and DI injector flow increase data, post-clean.
When it comes to fuel stabilization, they should be able to provide you with ASTM D525 results.
If they can't provide you with these types of test results, this should tell you something. If they can provide you with these types of test results, then you can use them to compare how the product performs versus others.
This is the process by which you can go about objectively finding the better/best cleaner/stabilizer.
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