New RP Fuel System Cleaner/Stabilizer

[Vikas]

Any manufacturer that you know of who publishes these results e.g. peer reviewed journal? Somebody had posted Chevron's study but that was at least two decades old and it was NOT the test as you described.

I am not trying to be wise guy here but apart from Chevron and 3M, I see no other manufacturer who might be even be conducting any of these studies let alone publish them or provide the results to us on request.

I do not think your suggestion is practical.

 

[hydrotrope]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Any manufacturer that you know of who publishes these results e.g. peer reviewed journal?


RP has this data on their Max-Clean, I have seen it. And AMSOIL actually has it posted right on their web site.

Originally Posted By: Vikas
I am not trying to be wise guy here but apart from Chevron and 3M, I see no other manufacturer who might be even be conducting any of these studies let alone publish them or provide the results to us on request.


That's exactly my point. How can a manufacturer make claims of clean-up, keep-clean, or fuel stabilization performance if they don't even have the studies/data to prove it? If they can't provide this info, then I think that, by default, you have your answer.

Originally Posted By: Vikas
I do not think your suggestion is practical.


How many phone calls have you made to manufacturers, requesting this data? If none or only a few, how can you even be in a position to make this statement?

 

[hydrotrope]

What I find interesting on this site are the "complaints" that this product or that product cost too much, or that you can buy two bottles of one product for the same cost of one bottle of that product. What you're failing to realize is that, with the pricier products, you're not just paying for the product. You're paying for all the research that went into making the product.

It's the same when you pay $50 per pill for specialty pharmaceuticals. The cost to manufacture that pill is less than $1. But that's not what you're actually paying for. What you're paying for is the research that has gone into the development of that pill, which assures that it actually performs as stated. The only difference is that, in the case of pharma, the FDA regulates the research process. And this assures that the product actually performs as stated (at least in theory).

In the case of fuel additives, there's no regulatory body. And it's too bad there isn't, else probably 90%+ of the products in this category would disappear from the shelves, and we'd only be left with those that actually perform as stated. In which case, this dialogue wouldn't be taking place because each product would come with an insert that communicates its efficacy -- again, just like is the case with pharma.

 

[Vikas]

Can you provide the URL for the Royal Purple published study? All I see on their website is just marketing blurb.

 

[hydrotrope]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Can you provide the URL for the Royal Purple published study? All I see on their website is just marketing blurb.


I saw it in the form of hard copy. If you contact them, they may be able to provide it.

 

[Swarmlord]

Can't seem to find it IN stores around me.

 

[mikered30]

Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Can't seem to find it IN stores around me.


Only place I saw it was Pep Boys. I think it was around $16 a can.

 

[DaHen]

Originally Posted By: mikered30
Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Can't seem to find it IN stores around me.


Only place I saw it was Pep Boys.


Likewise. Only saw it in Pep Boys around here.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: DaHen
Originally Posted By: mikered30
Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Can't seem to find it IN stores around me.


Only place I saw it was Pep Boys.


Likewise. Only saw it in Pep Boys around here.


DaHen;

I see you are in Mass. If you are up near the NH border you can grab it at the following speed shop...

Coastal Customs
193 Elm Street
Salisbury

$14.80 a can( includes the tax )

That is where I got the can I tried. They had a bunch on the counter so they do stock it.

 

[DaHen]

Thanks NHHEMI,

Plus Salisbury Beach should be in full swing this month. Will be a great excuse to take a run up there.

 

[NHHEMI]

I go to the Reservation all the time to hunt and fish. However, from July 4-Labor Day in Sept I avoid the area like the plague on weekends. Just crazy down there.

 

[TechnoLoGs]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product-reviews...p;pf_rd_i=typ01

There are NO one or two-star reviews.

Even the two three-star reviews say "It is OK."

This appears to be some good stuff.

What does Royal Purple, or the can, say about dosing? When does Royal Purple say to introduce this to the tank? (Full tank? Half? Quarter? On E?)

I'll bet people feel putting it in when the tank is lower makes it work better.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: RP.Com

Recommended Treat Rate
Pour entire contents of can into a nearly empty tank and refuel. One (1) can treats 15 to 20 gallons. For tank sizes outside of this range, use one (1) ounce per gallon. In two-cycle engines, use one (1) ounce per two (2) gallons.

 

[DrDusty86]

I'm just not sold on it. I use Max film, Max ATF and SN 5w20 RP currently. I'm not hate'n on the Purple peoples. This one just looks average

 

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted By: mikered30
It only has 5.0 – 15.0 % of PEA. Yawn.


When it comes to PEA, there is a threshold, and overdosing on PEA has really no positive result.


From--- https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3013738#Post3013738

Originally Posted By: Capa
Chevron Techron is the 800 lb. gorilla when it comes to PEA. They have done study after study on the subject, unlike most of these other companies, and it is very often on BOGO. They did a study a couple of years ago proving that when it comes to PEA, there is a threshold, and overdosing on PEA has really no positive result.

 

[hydrotrope]

Originally Posted By: Nightmare
When it comes to PEA, there is a threshold, and overdosing on PEA has really no positive result.


That is correct.

 

[surfstar]

Originally Posted By: hydrotrope
Originally Posted By: Nightmare
When it comes to PEA, there is a threshold, and overdosing on PEA has really no positive result.


That is correct.


But if you get more PEA per dollar, its a cheaper dose and you can use it over two tanks; like the Gumout All-In-One.
RP is just jumping on the bandwagon with nothing new and charging more for their name and/or colored dye. [IMO]

 

[hydrotrope]

Originally Posted By: surfstar

RP is just jumping on the bandwagon with nothing new and charging more for their name and/or colored dye. [IMO]


Really? Which other products offer both clean-up and fuel-stabilization performance in the same product?

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: hydrotrope
Originally Posted By: surfstar

RP is just jumping on the bandwagon with nothing new and charging more for their name and/or colored dye. [IMO]


Really? Which other products offer both clean-up and fuel-stabilization performance in the same product?


Lubegard Fuel System Booster, just found out about it today.

 

[mikered30]

Any BITOG reviews of this product? I dont always trust Amazon reviews.