at about 1/10th the strength of 1oz/gallon dose from the techron complete fuel system cleaner.
Does a (PEA) Fuel System Cleaner exist you can use EVERY Gas fill?
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I used BG Supercharge II back in the late '80s and early '90s with good results. This package looked very different back then and I'd hope the product has gotten even better over time.
- Deposit Control: Cleans fuel injectors, valves, and intake ports to restore engine performance, power, and fuel economy.
- Ethanol Protection: Formulated to combat the negative effects of ethanol-blended fuels (E10, E15, E85), such as moisture accumulation.
- Storage Stability: Acts as a fuel stabilizer to prevent gum and varnish formation during long-term storage.
- Usage: Recommended for use at every fill-up or during regular service intervals to maintain engine efficiency.
- Compatibility: Suitable for all gasoline engines, including modern direct-injection systems.
Most if not all top tier gas has cleaners in it, some like Chevron use Techron that has P.E.A. in their gas. So, you get that every time you fill up, the only thing is concentration, thus you can add a cleaner to certain concentration in gas that's safe to use with every fill up. Chevron premium gas is normally advertised to have higher concentration of Techron vs 87 gas, so there you go.
The thing people remember is that Chevron used to recommend against overusing Techron Concentrate, citing that it had the potential to deplete oil additives. Their recommendation was to dose it before an oil change, ostensibly such that it spends minimal time in that state and where the additives are replenished via fresh oil.
It was 1.5 oz per 10 gal of gasoline.
I started doing this because of my crummy short trip driving.
Interesting, how does that type of driving affect fuel system deposits?
I’ve heard more times where fuel is shut off where the residual fuel evaporates and leaves behind varnish on injectors. Probably more issues like getting up to operating temperature.
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When I first got this bike 3+ years ago I'd fuel it here. Seperate pump, 90 octane, no Top tier sticker.
Ive since switched to top tier 87 octane with 10% ethanol (usually Shell). I now put in a dose of blue stabil and MMO every tank. Bike runs better and no problem over winter with the carbs.
I believe the blue stabil has PEA in it.
Ive since switched to top tier 87 octane with 10% ethanol (usually Shell). I now put in a dose of blue stabil and MMO every tank. Bike runs better and no problem over winter with the carbs.
I believe the blue stabil has PEA in it.
Once or twice a month I can get the engine to operating temp......
I remember reading that not getting to op temp can cause in increase in injector as well as ring deposits......
It's even worse in the very cold months where I live.
Yeah I haven't seen that. In your situation I'd just go with a more frequent OCI.
Evrn though you may have not, it happens.
I also do a short OCI 3-4 months.
https://www.innova.com/blogs/fix-advices/fuel-injector-maintenance
Maybe if I believed that I had that issue.
Uh.....ok
Yikes. The commute at my old job was 30 mins of interstate-speed driving each way (super healthy for an engine), now I'm 10-15mins one way in city driving. Now you got me worried about injector varnish.
Still doing the same routine and don't know what else I can do:
- SI-1 or Techron before every oil change
- Just dosed 1 bottle of the new Valvoline Restore and Protect Fuel System Cleaner
- Premium TT gas only
My cars have all been responding well to back to back tanks with Valvoline Restore and Protect Fuel System Cleaner
Go to TopTeir website and it will tell you the stations using it.
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My main ride is a Diesel so I will and do drive out of the way to fill that tank with the good stuff. With my Ram 3500 diesel I can tell in a mile if it don't like the diesel thats in it. My diesel of choice lately is a brand new Marathon branded station ( new building and NEW underground tanks ) in a high traffic area about 15 miles from my house but for whatever reason my truck runs best on that diesel. IF I fill with 7-11 branded diesel ( new 3 year old 7-11 with 7-11 brand fuel, high traffic area ) but as soon as I fill it up and pull away its like the the parking brake is slightly on, I can feel the power loss... Not just once but every time I fill at that station and its a shame as I like that store and its 100' from my house.
I checked the website, I only have one top tier "GAS" snd zero Top Tier Diesel pumps close to my house. The one is a shell Station but its a very old station that was closed for years and only recently reopened and is not a high volume station, I never see any cars getting gas. Make me wonder do those 40+ year old stations clean and maintain the old underground tanks? a few years back I took this pic of a truck cleaning tanks in a out of State gas station. Made me think and ask myself... So does that station care and is keeping his tanks and fuel clean or does he have a bad problem and had to hire a underground tank cleaning company to fix the issue.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's in a small town I can recall people saying "don't buy gas at that store as he has water in his tanks" or dad and my family would be on a vacation in his 72 BiG Block 383 Plymouth wagon and he may say " I got some bad gas, must have water in it"
I assume those water in gas days are gone but I wonder?
I checked the website, I only have one top tier "GAS" snd zero Top Tier Diesel pumps close to my house. The one is a shell Station but its a very old station that was closed for years and only recently reopened and is not a high volume station, I never see any cars getting gas. Make me wonder do those 40+ year old stations clean and maintain the old underground tanks? a few years back I took this pic of a truck cleaning tanks in a out of State gas station. Made me think and ask myself... So does that station care and is keeping his tanks and fuel clean or does he have a bad problem and had to hire a underground tank cleaning company to fix the issue.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's in a small town I can recall people saying "don't buy gas at that store as he has water in his tanks" or dad and my family would be on a vacation in his 72 BiG Block 383 Plymouth wagon and he may say " I got some bad gas, must have water in it"
I assume those water in gas days are gone but I wonder?
I ran two intervals of Valvoline Restore and Protect fuel treatment with AMSOIL Upper Cylinder Lubricant together back to back with Shell 93 octane as filler. Runs great. You can tell on start up , it revs back down quickly. Acceleration response punchier.
If it's my imagination then it's the funniest part of it. Funny thing is I installed the coolant additive Amsoil makes too, good for at least 4 horsepower
If it's my imagination then it's the funniest part of it. Funny thing is I installed the coolant additive Amsoil makes too, good for at least 4 horsepower
Now I feel dumb for using Techron after every oil change (which made it easy to remember to do it)…
Makes sense, now I need to revise my game plan.
Side note:
Each bottle says “treats up to 15 gallons”. My trucks have 24 and 32 gallon tanks, so each gets two bottles and a full tank of fuel. Does everyone else do similar?