^^Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly.
Thank goodness they invented the squirt tip for bottles!
Does a (PEA) Fuel System Cleaner exist you can use EVERY Gas fill?
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That could get expensive. I run a bottle of SL1 every 5K ish before an oil change. With the exception of the Pilot. It sees half a bottle at 60 and the the other half at 20% OLM.
So you believe your local fuel is of such poor quality that this is needed? The reason I ask is because in my many years of driving and purchasing thousands and thousands of gallons of gasoline in many vehicles (most of which I keep for a very long time) I have used a fuel system cleaner exactly once. That was in my BMW when it had a rough idle, and it turned out to be a pushed-back pin in a fuel injector connector, nothing related to the fuel itself. I've not sought out Top Tier fuels nor have I been brand conscious at all. The notion that I would need this at every fuel fill sounds beyond ridiculous to me. I mean, I've driven my old Sienna nearly 500k miles and never used a fuel system cleaner, much less at every fill. It seems bizarre that it would be necessary.
You're also not "converting" a non-Top Tier fuel into one by using it. Do you even know what Top Tier means, requires, and how the fuel you're using relates to that?
You're also not "converting" a non-Top Tier fuel into one by using it. Do you even know what Top Tier means, requires, and how the fuel you're using relates to that?
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Good question... Whats the down side of excess PEA? Will it harm a cat? What gives?
I’m using REC90 non-ethanol in my carberureted ‘89 Electra Glide. I buy my REC90 from a local Exxon station. It states on the pump that it may or may not be an Exxon product. Since I don’t know what additives are in the gas, I started using Techron Protection Plus Powersports and small engine fuel treatment.
I have a couple of 5 gallon gas can that I get the REC90 in and then add the proper amount of Techron which is 1 oz per 4 gallons. It’s designed to be used with every tank.
I don’t know if it contains PEA or not.
https://www.chevronlubricants.com/e...powersports-and-small-engine-performance.html
I have a couple of 5 gallon gas can that I get the REC90 in and then add the proper amount of Techron which is 1 oz per 4 gallons. It’s designed to be used with every tank.
I don’t know if it contains PEA or not.
https://www.chevronlubricants.com/e...powersports-and-small-engine-performance.html
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Full disclosure and main reason for my post is I use this 93 octane Ethanol FREE gas from this pump 100% of the time in my old classic Harley and most of the time in my new Harley ( when I ride local ) Its a old pump on the side of a old building, the pump looks scary with the front bolts loose and makes a strange noise when it pumps and takes forever to prime from the underground tank.
Why do I use it? It runs fantastic in my bikes, My old bike sits in storage well with this pure gas filled to the top and my mix of Sta-bil and Marvel Mystery oil in the gas.
I'm not a fan of ethanol in classic anything. I do have newer ethanol free pumps in my area but all are 89 or 90 octane. My new bike pings on a hot day with anything under 91. This 93 will not ping. I have used this pump gas a solid 3 years and never felt like I got a bad run of gas...
Its one of only (2) 93 octane ( NO CORN ) pumps in my entire County and only a few miles from home.
But its no name gas and I have no idea what detergent it may have or not?
The idea of IF I could add detergents in every fill got me thinking why can't I?
I mean it doesn’t have PEA but I put a whole gallon of Lucas fuel cleaner/UCL in my 1977 Suburban just to see what would happen. It made absolutely no difference, granted it was mixed with like 40 gallons of gas.
And as full disclosure on my part, I live in an EPA nonattainment area and we've had RFG since the 1990s with no opportunity to purchase E0 in this area. I've never seen a connection between RFG and detergents and deposits, nor any real problem whatsoever. I'm still driving my 30 year-old Accord and 27 year-old Sienna, plus I drove that 1994 BMW up until a few years ago. Along with not using a cleaner I've never used a stabilizer nor MMO either.
I'm no fan of the reduced BTU content of RFG but I do think the unbounded hype about how bad it is doesn't have a basis in reality. Pinging is related to engine condition and design as well as the octane rating - which is separate and distinct.
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By law it has to have detergents in it, there is a minimum requirement that all gas stations need to put in their gas
True this, I didn't see that in his post.
How far away is your closest TT?
IF you feel that you must have TT or some dose of PEA in EVERY tank of fuel that you burn, just work your travel schedule to a point that you can integrate TT fill ups when you need fuel.
It certainly couldn't be any more expensive than purchasing PEA products for every tank full.
Then there is my friend who runs the cheapest gas one can buy for the 40yrs I've know him and has never had a fuel related problem.
That's me . Whatever is cheapest and a bottle of Techron once or twice a year . It's worked for me for 50+ years ..
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You would think however I have noticed in my County ( Not my 93 pump specific ) but many ethanol free 00 pumps may say off highway or something like that...
I use Sta-Bil Marine if I don’t go to a Top Tier station.
It has detergents. This is silly.
A station here in town sells Sunoco 110 Octane Race Gas right at the pump island where they sell everything else. It says it's not for, "highway use". But I believe that's because it contains lead..... The most proven way to screw up a catalytic converter.
That's what I did for well over 500K of commuting over 31 years.
However, if I came across some TT that was cheap, handy and met my other requirements, I may have partaken of some.
Other than that, it was the Gas Buddy low bid special from a clean, high volume, well lit station.