New Quaker State and Pennzoil @ Walmart

[Portobelly]

Nice.

 

[wemay]

I noticed the PZ wont help the engine seals

Every oil conditions the seals to some extent. High Mileage oils just increase the amount to levels allowed by the oil's certifications/approvals.

 

[srfdude]

In order to meet BMW LL01, a high SAPS is called for. LL01 is hard to find in oil specced in US, but that is contra to LL04 which calls for low/mid SAPS. A little smoke and mirrors here? With ceramic cats, high saps is deadly. Are they degrading oil performance to save the cats? I certainly wouldn't use this stuff in my (LL01) BMW.

 

[RamFan]

I reallllly want to see some QS Euro 0w-30 hit the shelves...

 

[Hall]

I’ll definitely be on the lookout for these at my local Walmart. Hopefully they'll stock it soon. Thanks for the post OP.

The Walmart near me had on the shelf last week. I normally use Edge 0W-40 in my car and considered the 5W-40 as they were out of 0W-40 but it wasn't on sale.... I've got ~2000 miles to go before my oil change is due so I'll hold out.

 

[Scuder]

In order to meet BMW LL01, a high SAPS is called for. LL01 is hard to find in oil specced in US, but that is contra to LL04 which calls for low/mid SAPS. A little smoke and mirrors here? With ceramic cats, high saps is deadly. Are they degrading oil performance to save the cats? I certainly wouldn't use this stuff in my (LL01) BMW.

API SN rated xxW-40 is allowed to be high SAPS. If it were SP, you might have cause for concern about smoke and mirrors.
I sold a lot of LL01 Quaker State to a high end import shop for several years. They loved it.

 

[Silver Samurai]

Pennzoil Full Synthetic...Is that their version of Exxon/Mobil's 'Super Synthetic'?

 

[Blinker]

Pennzoil Full Synthetic...Is that their version of Exxon/Mobil's 'Super Synthetic'?

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Hard to say, but Mobil Super Synthetic is discontinued. The replacement, Mobil Full Synthetic, is technically better on paper because it has the Dexos approval.

 

[bbhero]

“Formulated to meet”, no actual approvals.
Still great oil

Hey buddy it does have the MB 229.5 approval.

The Porsche A40 is in question i believe.

 

[2EHA]

if this is an old version of PPE 5W40 then it should have no problem meeting LL01

 

[Turbo Actual]

The Walmart near me had on the shelf last week. I normally use Edge 0W-40 in my car and considered the 5W-40 as they were out of 0W-40 but it wasn't on sale.... I've got ~2000 miles to go before my oil change is due so I'll hold out.

It says out of stock at my local Walmart. I just filled her up with 0W40 the other day. So I’m in no rush.

 

[Ronin73]

Hard to say, but Mobil Super Synthetic is discontinued. The replacement, Mobil Full Synthetic, is technically better on paper because it has the Dexos approval.

Mobil Super Synthetic is not discontinued and is available in 0w20, 5w20, and 5w30: https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants.../our-products/motor-oils/synthetic-motor-oils

 

[Blinker]

Mobil Super Synthetic is not discontinued and is available in 0w20, 5w20, and 5w30: https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants.../our-products/motor-oils/synthetic-motor-oils

That’s fine. There was some confirmation from Mobil posted on here awhile back that Mobil SS was being dropped in favor of Mobil FS.

 

[Overfill]

Hey buddy it does have the MB 229.5 approval.

The Porsche A40 is in question i believe.

I suspect that you can't get A40 without a winter rating of 0w

 

[drtyler]

I suspect that you can't get A40 without a winter rating of 0w

Incorrect

 

[michael007]

It's on the Porsche A40 approval list

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10166908-0001.pdf

 

[BERLIN]

Would love to see a datasheet or a VOA on that Pennzoil 5w-30 product.

The data sheet won't do much good from Pennzoil (Shell) they are often unreliable and inaccurate.

 

[Scuder]

The data sheet won't do much good from Pennzoil (Shell) they are often unreliable and inaccurate.

Do you have evidence of this, or should have you used the word occasionally instead of often?

 

[earthbound]

For most of us, very true. But you’d be surprised (well, maybe not!) at the things I hear people say in the oil aisle while shopping, they see that kinda stuff and it’s like a dog drawn to a fresh bone!

I know that fantastic miracle stuff in a bottle ptfe slick 50 stuff sucked me in when I was a dumb 16 yr old like a big black hole...

 

[Propflux01]

I know that fantastic miracle stuff in a bottle ptfe slick 50 stuff sucked me in when I was a dumb 16 yr old like a big black hole...

You and me both.