I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the plans for these vessels pre-dates the current administration.
New Battleships
- Thread starter Ronsant
- Start date
Battleships are obsolete in the age of Mach 2 aircraft and Missiles. We don't need no stinking Battleships A bigger ship is just a bigger target.
Surprised you make these statements.
https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/railguns-the-super-weapon-the-u-s-navy-quit-building/
While you may think discussion of past large warships are the “completely irrelevant,” the reality is neither the USN nor allies nor adversaries have pursued large ships other than aircraft carriers or amphibious assault ships.
China’s largest ships other than their aircraft carrier(s) and amphibious assault ships are the 590 foot (180m) Type 55 cruisers displacing 11,000 tons. Largest current ships in USN are Arleigh Burke class DD’s, ignoring the slightly larger (610 ft / 186m 15,600 ton) Zumwalt class already cancelled.
The vulnerability of aircraft carriers (which actually exist today) to top-tier adversaries is the subject of much debate.
My personal opinion is that developments in unmanned vessels are far more important and significant than this recently announced and not fully developed (nor fully funded) project.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...es-russian-submarine-with-sub-sea-baby-drone/
http://www.hisutton.com/
Last edited:
Carriers are nothing more than targets these days. They are good for showing force to third world nations.
Yet it sounds like they will have 6” of armor & while that’s not much compared to the Iowa class it’s more than anything else in the US fleet
It’s the modern evolution of the battleship, not a Iowa class but in today’s Navy a battleship IF it comes to fruition
Ultimately the plans could easily be alluded to the Star Wars project from the 1980s, but lets not say that is what it is because that might give some doubt.
With drones and underwater drones, I guess I will go by your "we have enough" and make all war plans by your opinion. I guess Putin had enough tanks and artillery for 10 years of war.............................................................. And hows that working out. I guess Putin did not have enough quills.
Thus you have the Build Submarines campaign for workers.
When I googles railguns, I get a lot of info about how they are one shot only and very difficult to make, due to tremendous forces on the physical structure of the launch apparatus.
Very long range, but you can only shoot it once. Then you have to rebuild the gun?
Google also produced several articles saying that the USN has abandoned the railgun as unworkable.
I’d like to see the US be able to fire cheap ( relatively) drones in bunches. Something like that would have come in handy against the Houthi pirates. It’s a losing proposition to fight $1,000 drones with $1,000,000,000 missiles
Very long range, but you can only shoot it once. Then you have to rebuild the gun?
Google also produced several articles saying that the USN has abandoned the railgun as unworkable.
I’d like to see the US be able to fire cheap ( relatively) drones in bunches. Something like that would have come in handy against the Houthi pirates. It’s a losing proposition to fight $1,000 drones with $1,000,000,000 missiles
Cool, then don't offer essential federal employees Deferred Resignation Plans. Don't gyp them out of six weeks worth of on-time pay or project the impression that nothing was learned from the last government shutdown. And it's not just the guys turning wrenches, you've got contractors, SUPSHIPS, etc.
If they were essential they would not be offered DRP or anything else other than continuing to work
They have overcome the barrel problems from what I’ve been reading & Japan already has them on some ships testing and refining them
I know around here that General Dynamics aka Electric Boat, cannot hire enough skilled workers to fill the positions needed.
They are working with some of the local schools to get a path for students to graduate and get a job there. I imagine the Virginia shipyard is also hiring.
A huge problem is lack of highly skilled tradecraft workers. Gillette Wyoming has a welding school that teaches you skills needed in the oilfields welding & they can’t graduate enough highly skilled entry level welders to meet the demand & I can only imagine it’s even worse in the ship building industry
I want to get better at welding. Maybe I should go to that school and then get a job welding in the oilfields?? But I am 72 so maybe I should just retire and weld as a hobby.
I feel that it would be a very good thing to have the government and these industries team up with the schools to create a pathway to these trades. It would give the dept of education something worthwhile to do, and strengthen the country.
Why would you need to get within 20 miles?
Did you look at the weapons load-out on this proposed class of ship?
You’re the one thinking in the 1930s.
This may be the size of the Tirpitz, but it’s not sporting 15” guns.
Only the uninformed are talking about armor and 15” guns.
