Mobil EP Vs Valvoline EP

[LazyDog]

Out of these 2 oils would you say the are the about the same or not. I currently have the Mobil on the CRV and was thinking about trying
the Valvoline. The CRV gets 6 months oil changes regardless of miles driven.

 

[dkryan]

“…six months regardless of miles…..”

Either one will be fine.

 

[fantastic]

Either will work=Honda, 6 mo intervals

 

[pbm]

The Mobil EP is marketed as a long drain oil but I don't believe the Valvoline EP is. If I were going further than 7500 miles on an OCI I'd feel better using the Mobil EP.
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[ndarkside93]

Out of these 2 oils would you say the are the about the same or not. I currently have the Mobil on the CRV and was thinking about trying
the Valvoline. The CRV gets 6 months oil changes regardless of miles driven.

The Mobil is marketed as extended drain while the Valvoline is designed for reduced wear and increased protection with a very strong add pack. But for 6 months they would both serve you well

 

[Averroes]

Either will do the job you want it to do. If you prefer more moly, go with the V.EP.

I've switched from M1 to Valvoline for all the cars I do oil changes for (to Valv Advanced, don't have EP at my disposal yet).

 

[dippschtick]

I have VEP 5w30 in my 2018 4Runner and it is noticeably smoother and quieter than any of the various M1 products I have used. YMMV.

 

[tired]

Just a reminder of Glenda's Valvoline EP experience. That is enough for me to personally stay away from it permanently.

 

[ltslimjim]

Just a reminder of Glenda's Valvoline EP experience. That is enough for me to personally stay away from it permanently.

At least, in vehicles known to have a tendency to develop oil consumption. Severe use case. For an average daily driver? I don’t see the issue running Valvoline EP; in non-extended service.

Perhaps @Glenda W. ‘s experiment running only M1 ESP now will yield more of a complete picture to whether it can happen with any oil. The oil choice can be more important. I don’t think a single use case should be blamed on Valvoline EP; as we don’t have all of the evidence yet outside of their specific use.

 

[Glenda W.]

I believe in my case it was a combination of severe service and a vehicle prone to sticking rings. I find it interesting my friend made it to 120k before burning oil with M1 EP vs mine at 60k. In three years and 60k miles I’ll have a verdict on ESP!

 

[tired]

At least, in vehicles known to have a tendency to develop oil consumption. Severe use case. For an average daily driver? I don’t see the issue running Valvoline EP; in non-extended service.

Perhaps @Glenda W. ‘s experiment running only M1 ESP now will yield more of a complete picture to whether it can happen with any oil. The oil choice can be more important. I don’t think a single use case should be blamed on Valvoline EP; as we don’t have all of the evidence yet outside of their specific use.

I agree. I think those are good points. However, my counterpoint is that there are so many good oils available at the same price without that history, so why not just pick a different one? You can get good Euro oils for the same price.

 

[ltslimjim]

I agree. I think those are good points. However, my counterpoint is that there are so many good oils available at the same price without that history, so why not just pick a different one? You can get good Euro oils for the same price.

Yeah, I do agree. I was just trying to be fair and honestly, I’m not running out there to grab Valvoline’s EP given those better options. If I did, I’d buy their EP HM.

Instead of either of those, though, I’ll be trying the R&P to see if consumption changes in my daily driver. That, Valvoline may have the market cornered.

I’d be surprised if the consumption returned to the same levels for @Glenda W. ’s example on the ESP…but it could very well still have some usage increase occur. I think the question could boil down to the value of the R&P at cleaning deposits in the test that is supposed to produce them; as opposed to other oils that have typically been formulated to resist deposit formation. M1 0w-40 seemed to do that objectively better if we consider the consumption was minimal on it before the swap to Val EP. It’s very valuable data to see how M1 ESP responds.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I view Mobil as being a much more innovative company than Valvoline and have a hard time wrapping my head around how Valvoline products are basically the same cost as Mobil 1 equivalents, so I would choose Mobil 1.

 

[rumcapital23]

both SP rated oils?

every 6 months?

Super Tech Advanced 20,000 mile oil ftw

 

[ltslimjim]

I view Mobil as being a much more innovative company than Valvoline and have a hard time wrapping my head around how Valvoline products are basically the same cost as Mobil 1 equivalents, so I would choose Mobil 1.

Generally agree on M1 having more at their disposal and leading the industry among the majors. But, that narrative can be changing given the innovation with R&P. Follow the money. If it continues to sell, and people get results, Valvoline will put even more into their own engine testing and molecule synthesis could yield more interesting results. Might not get another elixir at solving a problem but ultimately it’s about improving overall oil formulation.

Comparing the two oils in the OP, they are only similar in the “EP” label; but it’s purely labeling not necessarily the same market. One is an extended drain oil. So, I typically would prefer to run the M1 EP between the two in my use case.

 

[Glenda W.]

Aramco gives Valvoline huge resources now. In the LSJR vid they mention universities and scientists in Mumbai sending them new additives to test in the engine lab. Also appears GTL is on the rise through their lineup.

 

[ChrisD46]

I have VEP 5w30 in my 2018 4Runner and it is noticeably smoother and quieter than any of the various M1 products I have used. YMMV.

My mechanic once had the valve cover off of an engine in the bay when another mechanic walked by and said “looks like another Mobil 1 engine” as the engine was spotless . Don’t know about the rings - so VRP over VEP for the win (it’s very quiet as well ).

 

[BornSlippy]

Aramco gives Valvoline huge resources now. In the LSJR vid they mention universities and scientists in Mumbai sending them new additives to test in the engine lab. Also appears GTL is on the rise through their lineup.

VRP 5W-30 is 40-50% GTL.

 

[ltslimjim]

VRP 5W-30 is 40-50% GTL.

I thought 5w-30 grade had the lowest GTL% and the two 20 grades had the highest?

 

[chorty]

changing oil every 6 months regardless of mileage?

I just swapped a 7.3 IDI into my 2019 3500HD. please give me all of your fresh unused 'used' motor oil. I need fuel.
I hope you also dump and refill the transmission when parked excessively too. This standyne pump will eat any motion lotion.