Mixing Mobil 1

I can’t take credit for the above oil brew but I believe this and maybe other brews posted here worth a glance .

Forgive the spelling- but what about the former “Cateran” oil blend popular here for Toyota owners - quite a few members here liked it . No matter , I don’t blend and will most likely continue with M1 5W30 EP or M1 0W30 ESP oils .
The obvious shortcoming of CATERHAM’s blend have been discussed ad nauseam as much as its supposed benefits. But here’s a simple question: since insanely high VI numbers come at a cost (very high Noack results), what benefit is there in using an oil that evaporates rapidly at high temps in addition to generally having poor performance for viscosity retention?

Basically, TGMO was very volatile and very shear-prone (combined with an already-low HT/HS in pursuit of fuel economy) so not only will your oil level likely drop quickly, the part that’s left will thin out and drop your overall viscosity, and what’s evaporated off will end up in your oil ring pack and on the backside of your intake valves, especially in a direct-injection engine. Where’s ANY benefit of using that oil as a blend, or even straight?

Those are all probably likely reasons why that original formula was quickly changed…
 
Yes, the "CATERHAM blend" which I was always vocally critical of, if you recall for the same reasons I've outlined in this thread.
Thank you ! Yes , that was the blend I was referring to . I think blending oil nowadays is more of topping off with a different brand oil you may have on hand versus purposely mixing two different oils . If the same approvals exist for both oils you should be ok for topping off an oil . I only have one oil on hand now (M1 0W30 ESP) so even topping off is the same oil .
 
Thank you ! Yes , that was the blend I was referring to . I think blending oil nowadays is more of topping off with a different brand oil you may have on hand versus purposely mixing two different oils . If the same approvals exist for both oils you should be ok for topping off an oil . I only have one oil on hand now (M1 0W30 ESP) so even topping off is the same oil .
And it's not "blending" as in having a target outcome. It's ad hoc mixing, and generally by individuals that have no clue what they are really doing - as is the case here.
 
Thank you ! Yes , that was the blend I was referring to . I think blending oil nowadays is more of topping off with a different brand oil you may have on hand versus purposely mixing two different oils . If the same approvals exist for both oils you should be ok for topping off an oil . I only have one oil on hand now (M1 0W30 ESP) so even topping off is the same oil .
Exactly if it needs a half quart whatever’s on hand dump it, I see no harm it all mixes together
 
This drove me to check the shelves - and thinking of two rules of thumb seen here often. Stay with brand and stay with grade.
I have Valvoline in quart bottles that are all 10W30.
2 are full synthetic HM
2 are semi in HM (these are only $6, so two more is doable)
1 is VR-1
So who thinks that mix will cause issues in a Pentastar for 5k?
(and no, my OPE has plenty of stash)
Add two drops of sesame oil and your frankenbrew is golden!
 
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My current fill of motorcraft 0w-20 full syn is the only time I have not blended. I have blended Mobil 1 0w-40 with Mobil 0w-20 since I bought the Venza 3 years ago. I want a 0w-30 or close to it and have the pic for 0w-20 for warranty purposes. Not worried about blending. Nothing has blown up.
That's exactly what I do now and then when I need a 0w30.
 
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I think there is a difference between those that are attempting a custom formula based on their belief system -vs- someone cleaning shelf space knowing the mix can lower performance targets - but can be offset by moving up a grade …
 
Oh deer, the same question that has come up repeatedly didn't get a reminder of the same question being asked a hundred times, and now the latest trend is to not mix? oh deer. see you on thread page 57 in a few days.
 
And it's not "blending" as in having a target outcome. It's ad hoc mixing, and generally by individuals that have no clue what they are really doing - as is the case here.
Blending or ad hoc mixing - call it what you will as again , I do not perform this practice and only mentioned other members past efforts might be considered. Have I topped off a M1 5W30 SP rated oil fill with leftovers from a Pennzoil 5W30 SP rated oil previous fill before ? Sure I have and I would do if again if all I had was another brand 5W30 SP rated oil sitting in the garage . It’s all a moot point for me as I only use one type of M1 oil now in all my vehicles , so now even top offs use the same M1 oil .
 
I'm 86 years old, so I have a lot experience in driving and maintaining the cars I and my extended family had. This includes four pleasure drives from my home in Florida to Alaska and back (talk about pleasure driving). Each of these cars gave me hundreds of thousands of miles of service. I have never mixed oils. Each one is blended very carefully. If I had mixed oils there would be some change away from their carefully blended products. It's fine with me what other owners do with their cars. I had only one vehicle ('87 mitsub. pickup) that I had to add oil to between OCIs. I never had any other oil burners. Just last week I did two oil and filter changes and one AFT drain and fill. So much for being 86 years young. I don't mix different oils and I still enjoy taking care of our cars.
 
I'd like to add that when we switch oil brands/types, we are also mixing oils and throwing a wrench into things. With the amount of residual oil in the engine, if you drain Pennzoil and fill with Mobil 1 let's say, you're still running a mix similar to topping off with a different oil.

In theory, the best practice is to pick one oil and stick with it. Granted, there's nothing we can do about new API specs/formulation changes, but sticking to one offering long-term gives you the best chance of achieving consistency and using the most "true" version of a given formulation possible.
 
I've blended and mixed so many oils in my old Vortec I've forgotten which ones i used at this point. I used to target at least 10 TBN for the 5W30 blend but don't regard that as so important anymore after doing a few UOA's.

Right now I have M1 0W40 at 60% by volume with the rest being Valvoline R&P 0W20...which comes out to be 0W30 on the nuts according to this: https://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Mixtures.html
 
I've blended and mixed so many oils in my old Vortec I've forgotten which ones i used at this point. I used to target at least 10 TBN for the 5W30 blend but don't regard that as so important anymore after doing a few UOA's.

Right now I have M1 0W40 at 60% by volume with the rest being Valvoline R&P 0W20...which comes out to be 0W30 on the nuts according to this: https://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Mixtures.html
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