Liquimoly vs motul

[MParr]

Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5W30 will work just fine.

 

[Grambo]

Thanks for the responses guys i dont know if im going to go motul xcess gen 2 or liquimoly leighlauf or Amsoil. any more opinions?

 

[BrainThicknessVariation]

Question though: why pay extra for an oil to import it from France or Germany when there’s absolutely zero benefit to do so, even over stuff that Mobil puts on every Walmart shelf?

To be fair to @TiGeo, it's practically free these days, both from FCPEuro and ECSTuning. I don't LOVE sending used oil through the mail, but I've done it. Compared to what I see some BITOG users go through for a few rebates, it's really not all that bad.

 

[dbias]

All day, every day and twice on Sunday.

 

[GW.]

All day, every day and twice on Sunday. View attachment 234096

Yes! IMO best sleeper oil available at Walmart.

 

[TiGeo]

To be fair to @TiGeo, it's practically free these days, both from FCPEuro and ECSTuning. I don't LOVE sending used oil through the mail, but I've done it. Compared to what I see some BITOG users go through for a few rebates, it's really not all that bad.

Gets it.

 

[TomYoung]

Hyundai is the Supertech of car brands. Just change it often. We are approaching 200k on a TGDI Nissan Nismo "performance", no boutique oil just synthetic changed before 5k miles.

Hyundai is not the Supertech of car brands. Supertech is good.

 

[rondhol]

There are only a few brands still marketed Fully synthetic Oil in Germany standard. For instance, for 0w20:
Ravenol VSE, ECS, DNF, etc. but not VSH and EHS (group iii)
Addinol Premium 508/509 but not the Addinol Economy
Amsoil Signature but not other Amsoils.

Ravenol PAO are as expensive as Amsoil Signature, and I believe they are better but too pricey.

For 0w40, there are more option that are fully synthetic like some lines from Aral, Meguin, Kroons, Ravenol, Addinol, etc.

I have never seen Liquimoly nor Rapsol advertised PAO or fully synthetic oil in Germany. They are both just average oil, not premium.

Rapsol is known to use group III heavily and cheaper.

The surprisingly good but cheap oil is Mannol with true approval from manufacturers like 7715 7730 7722 and contains >25% PAO.

Most of them probably uses cPAO instead of mPAO.

 

[FlyingTexan]

I have never seen Liquimoly nor Rapsol advertised PAO or fully synthetic oil in Germany. They are both just average oil, not premium.

What makes you say that? LM has a lot of approvals. I've been running it in my 2500HD pickup and yamaha 225 SHO outboard. My pickup has 231k miles and have been getting the snot beat of it pulling farm equipment from one location to the other well past it's designed tow rating and it's been 100+ in Texas. Sucker still just won't quit. Actually tuned it to a 91 octane last week and it feels brand new under the hood. I've been driving about 80-100miles a day on it lately helping a buddy for harvest and will do a drain on it. Can say the Molygen, for whatever reason, runs smoother than the Mobil 1 that was in it.

 

[rondhol]

Don't get me wrong. I used whatever brands on sale. Rapsol is known to use heavily group III, but does not mean it is not as good as Mobil 1 or Castrol. Liquimoly is just normal oil like Supertech, Valvoline, or Kirkland.
Approval are often got from simply using known formula from Lubrizol, Infinium, Oronite, or Afton Chem and pay royalty and application fees. All oil are good if they meet certain spec.
Fully synthetic in German standard are not easy to find and that what I meant premium.

 

[ChristianReske]

So, there are no Liqui Moly fully synthetic - PAO oils in Germany?

Surprisingly, the german Liquiy Moly Homepage list 18 "Vollsynthetisch" - Mainly PAO according to german law - Motor oils for cars and Motorcycles.

And mannol is a oil to avoid at all cost, the quality is subpar. Read through this forum and the german oil Forum.