Just An Observation

[threeputtpar]

I've bought them and Premium Guard from Rock when ordering other things just for the heck of it. Ran one Pronto on the Audi for a 5k OCI and didn't have any problems. Didn't cut it open, though.

Running a Premium Guard on the Honda now, and will cut it open at the end of the OCI. I'll post pics at that time, probably by the end of summer.

For <$1.50 each, I figured that there was little risk. If they caused any rattling, I'd just pull them and replace with a known good filter.

 

[Red91]

Another observation....I have enough common sense to know that these aren't 10k-15k mile filters. Also, if FRAM's can be run with confidence, so can these Pronto's. For low mileage OCI's, I'd say they are more than adequate. My personal OCI is no more than 3k; it has nothing to do with the "myth", but that the combination of vehicle, driving style, and oil choice fit the interval. Most of you guys have yet again overthought this subject. I put the information out there so people on a budget would have another reliable, good quality option for their vehicle maintenance. Never once did I say these Pronto's should be used for extended OCI's. By the way, the filters for my truck are Korean made.

 

[Dallas69]

I think that the new minimum for most cars needs to be 5000 miles since oil is much better than in the past

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

A lesson not too late for the learning. A salesman for industrial oil filters talked a warehouse employee at a large generating station into furnishing him with a list of all filters used at the facility. That salesman called upon the purchasing supervisor at the Denver area headquarters and showed him how thousands of dollars could be saved by purchasing off-brand oil filters instead of General Electric oil filters which were pricey(for a reason). Nobody at headquarters bothered to consult with plant personnel about purchasing the replacement filters. They just let the smoke be blown up their *$# and the replacement filters started showing up at the warehouse. Same part numbers,new supplier Nobody is paying attention. Now the generating units started tripping off the line. Down time with lost generation while plant techs looked for the cause. Servo strainers for turbine main stop and control valves plugging up with debris from the electro hydraulic control unit. Change out the filters. Get er back on the line. Boom, the stop valves keep on tripping and lost generation continues. Change em out again. Same thing. Someone in the planning dept. has warehouse bring one of the filters off the shelf to the main plant for a look see. These aren't GE filters. Where the #@*% did these come from?. Well they came from XYZ company who talked purchasing into buying cost saving oil filters which were suppose to have the same specs but didn't. The company could have purchased a train car load of GE filters for the cost of lost generation and man hours spent correcting the problem This is a true story with no embellishment. The plant generator breakers really do go BOOM when the unit trips off the line. Cheap filters are just that, they are cheap..As that eminent legal counsel, Jackie Stiles said, "just another one of my(our) many humiliations."

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Engineering should have been involved with the approval or not of the filter change. Obviously, their channels of configuration control and management of their equipment is weak. And this is the kind of thing that happens when control of equipment is lacking. I'm sure they have since improved processes to prevent something like this from happening again. Lessons learned is what changes and tightens processes in a company.

 

[Kruse]

Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
That salesman called upon the purchasing supervisor at the Denver area headquarters and showed him how thousands of dollars could be saved by purchasing off-brand oil filters instead of General Electric oil filters which were pricey(for a reason)..........

This is a true story with no embellishment.


Got a link for this story?
While on the subject, I'm not a big fan of cheap automotive filters from China either, but millions of cars make it to 150K miles (or more) just by going to an Iffy Lube place every 5K miles. Perhaps the generating station needs to buy their filters from an Iffy Lube shop. (Weak attempt at humor has now ended)

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
That salesman called upon the purchasing supervisor at the Denver area headquarters and showed him how thousands of dollars could be saved by purchasing off-brand oil filters instead of General Electric oil filters which were pricey(for a reason)..........

This is a true story with no embellishment.


Got a link for this story?
While on the subject, I'm not a big fan of cheap automotive filters from China either, but millions of cars make it to 150K miles (or more) just by going to an Iffy Lube place every 5K miles. Perhaps the generating station needs to buy their filters from an Iffy Lube shop. (Weak attempt at humor has now ended)
No link. I guess I am the link. The problem started early on was trying to operate a 1260 MW station with a 100MW management mentality.

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ Engineering should have been involved with the approval or not of the filter change. Obviously, their channels of configuration control and management of their equipment is weak. And this is the kind of thing that happens when control of equipment is lacking. I'm sure they have since improved processes to prevent something like this from happening again. Lessons learned is what changes and tightens processes in a company.
The original G&T went bankrupt and the G&T that took over was wonderful. Nothing earth shattering, but things started being done right and individuals held accountable. The first years under the original association were a nightmare with hardly any upper management oversight.

 

[mcrn]

As long as I can afford to and there is an option to buy something made almost anywhere other than China.......I will purchase that one.