Are you talking about the Alabama Plant? I think they only build the Sonatas there. Mine comes from the Ulsan plant in South Korea. I wonder what the factory fill is there? Is QS even marketed in Korea?
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Yes, the plant in Alabama. Don't know what is used in Korea.
My source at Hyundai said Shell 5W-20 Did not ask if synthetic or brand of Shell So Johnny is more then correct.
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Well, my 2005 AccentGT owner's manual calls for 5W20 SL (I suppose SM wasn't out then).
I cannot imagine a 2006 or 07 specing SG. My 92 was SG, maybe SF I believe..
I cannot imagine a 2006 or 07 specing SG. My 92 was SG, maybe SF I believe..
I have a relative working at Hyundai in Alabama. He was told the factory fill for the Sonata was 5W-30 synthetic. They would not disclose the brand however. I`ve got a suspicion it is QS since that is what the owner`s manual suggests. I was mainly interested whether it was synthetic or dino. Kinda curious that the oil filler cap says 5W-20. The new Sonata owner`s manual specs 5W-20, 5W-30, or 10W-30 unless really cold!
My relative also was told that a 3.3L Lambda V-6 is occasionally pulled of the line and run 300 hours at 6000 RPM and full load for QC check.
My relative also was told that a 3.3L Lambda V-6 is occasionally pulled of the line and run 300 hours at 6000 RPM and full load for QC check.
Note that Shell has a group that does "Fluid Management" for industrial plants that use a lot of lubricants - such as automotive manufacturing plants. I know because I worked with them (not for them) for about a year on a project in an automotive gear manufacturing plant. Under contract, they take over the management of all fluids in the plant - all lubricants, cutting fluids, cleaners, chemicals, etc. Naturally they end up replacing competitors lubricants with their own wherever they can, and outsource the rest of the stuff that isn't their core business (such as cleaners and other specialty chemicals). So they supply Shell greases and gear oils for this and that, Quaker State motor for the production engines, perhaps some Rotella for the air compressor crankcases, Pennzoil in the Tow Motor engines, etc, etc. So the simultaneous presence of the names Shell and Quaker State in an automotive plant seems to make perfect sense based on my experience. Now I really don't know if Shell is doing Fluid Management at the Hyundai plant or not. But in this thread, I see the names Shell and Quaker State mentioned as suppliers in the same plant. Again, it makes some sense based on my experience.
My 2005 Elantra specs SH, in 5w30, 10w30, or 10w40, depending on climate. I started with 5w30 Valvoline All-Climate, then switched to 10w30 Exon Superflo. Both were SM grade. Car runs great with both, but think gas mileage was better with the Valvoline. Also used LC20 with both of the above oils.
No complaints with the Elantra.
A lady I know purchased a 2007 Sonata last week. It is the V6 Limited and is loaded. I could not believe what she paid for it (there was $1500 rebate at the time as well). I drove it and I'm here to tell you that if Hyundai keeps building cars like this they'll put everyone out of business. VERY well built with quality everywhere; great rebates; tremendous warranty - best in the nation; sharp looking with neat colors; a price that undercuts every single legitimate competition, etc. And the most complete, well organized and illustrated owner manual I have ever seen - even she can understand it!
I own a 2006 Honda Ridgeline but if I were in the market for a car, the Sonata would be first on my list, even over the Accord.
I own a 2006 Honda Ridgeline but if I were in the market for a car, the Sonata would be first on my list, even over the Accord.
I'm personally chagrined they'd recommend, in the manual, what we generally regard as the "midgrade" SOPUS PCMO. It's certainly mid-priced, which would put their profits in the middle. Pennzoil sits up top, Formula shell at the bottom. Maybe they're trying to (mentally) mesh the Hyundai 100,000 mile warranty with the QS 250,000 one? Maybe they're going to "yuppify" Pennzoil in the upcoming years and don't want Hyundai owners overpaying for basic supplies?
I travel a lot, and rent a lot of different kinds of cars. I frequently end up with a Sonata. I absolurely agree with your post and would add that it is a strong performer as well.
Hyundai has made enormous and commendable leaps in quality in ten years. When I changed oil in the early to mid-90s, these cars were basically know as useful for getting rid of stocks of unwanted, obsolete oils since they were mobile oil-furnaces that were based on the 1980s vintage Mazda 1.6L engine. But somehow they got it terribly wrong, and turned a reliable, if crude, 4-cyl. into junk. But now it seems that they're as good as anything out there.
gtx510}It's a Hyundia. I'm not sure if I'd even bother to change the oil. [HR said:
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well I have a 91 Excel and recently drove it 2500 miles in less than 3 days and it didn't hesitate for a moment.
consistent mid 30's to low 40 mpg as a dd and its a little tank that takes a beating. all those early Hyundais are Mitsu(DSM days) based mechanicals.
hard to believe people still rag on Hyun/Kia while they are quietly surpasing many of the Japanese brands in quality & value. hmm, what powers Jeep Compass & Dodge Caliber?
well I have a 91 Excel and recently drove it 2500 miles in less than 3 days and it didn't hesitate for a moment.
consistent mid 30's to low 40 mpg as a dd and its a little tank that takes a beating. all those early Hyundais are Mitsu(DSM days) based mechanicals.
hard to believe people still rag on Hyun/Kia while they are quietly surpasing many of the Japanese brands in quality & value. hmm, what powers Jeep Compass & Dodge Caliber?
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