Hyundai recommends Quaker State

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I was browsing throught the owner's manual of my new 2007 Accent Hatch. In the topping of fluids section, the manual states Quaker State as the recommended brand of oil (the QS logo is very prominant on the page). Is this just advertising? I would probably never use QS oil myself, but what is Hyundai getting out of this?
 
QS is a excellent oil.
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I'd use it with no problem.

You think Hyundai with the longest warrenty out there is going to risk THEIR money recommending a bad oil just for the heck of it.

The FACT is if you follow their manual using the grade and OCI that they state with a good SL/SM oil, long engine life is a given.

I'd use whatever was on sale like Chevron, QS, Pennzoil, Halovine, Castrol.

I would not use Mobil because it screws up the UOAs.
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just me...
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Nice car BTW! Keep us informed how you like it and MPG please!

Take care, Bill
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Just an FYI, every Hyundia built at the new plant they just opened leaves the factory with Quaker State Synthetic 5W30 in it. As Bill says, it is a good oil.
 
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Originally posted by gtx510:

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Originally posted by HardbodyLoyalist:

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but what is Hyundai getting out of this?

Money.


a QS plant in Korea?
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It's a Hyundia. I'm not sure if I'd even bother to change the oil.
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In the late 80's early 90's that would of been correct but things have improved as with all cars.
Hyundai / Kia are good cars. You Sir are so behind the times.

Ken in WA
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Yeah, well, he missed the post regarding my 92 Elantra that I traded at the 293 THOUSAND mile mark. Wasn't burning oil, good electrics, and the week I traded it, I took it on a 1000 mile jaunt to BahSton and back. Twas a great car, but I got the itch to pull the trigger on...

A NEW Hyundai!!!

Yer funny, GTX!
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I believe Hyundai just surpassed Honda in world-wide sales this year and have their sights set on being No. 5 in the world. Plus, they have moved from 11th to 3rd only behind Lexus and Porsche in JD Powers initial quality.

Pretty good for a company that still gets unfairly associated with the Pony and Stellar.
 
Well, I just double checked my inside sources at Shell, and Shell did sign a supply agreement with Hyundai for their Alabama plant 8 months before it opened. Not sure about the 5W20 or 5W30 but Shell is supplying Quaker State Synthetic, not Shell for factory fill.
 
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Well, I just double checked my inside sources at Shell, and Shell did sign a supply agreement with Hyundai for their Alabama plant 8 months before it opened. Not sure about the 5W20 or 5W30 but Shell is supplying Quaker State Synthetic, not Shell for factory fill.

I think Hyundai is specifying 5w20 in most or all of their new engines, so it's probably 5w20.
 
Lube Report indicated last September that Hyundai's U.S. plant was supplied by Nippon Oil. 'course that was then and this is now. I agree with HardbodyLoyalist - some money changed hands (outright or as supply discounts) between SOPUS and Hyundai to "encourage" Hyundai to recommend Quaker State by name in the owners' manuals. Theoretically, this could set an unwelcome precedent regarding powertrain warranty claims if Hyundai comes back against owners with, "Golly, you didn't use the recommended motor oil? Really? Why ever in the world would you choose to invalidate your powertrain warranty?" As to the rumor that Hyundais off the Alabama plant's assembly line are getting Quaker State synthetic as factory fill, well, it's an unsubstantiated dealership rumor that's taken on the usual personna of BITOG fact unless confirmed by Hyundai or SOPUS in writing as far as I'm concerned...
 
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Originally posted by Ray H:
As to the rumor that Hyundais off the Alabama plant's assembly line are getting Quaker State synthetic as factory fill, well, it's an unsubstantiated dealership rumor that's taken on the usual personna of BITOG fact unless confirmed by Hyundai or SOPUS in writing as far as I'm concerned...

If Johnny say's it's Quaker State synthetic, you can take that to the bank. He used to work for Pennzoil and if his contacts are telling him it's QS synthetic, that's good enough for me.
 
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Originally posted by G-Man II:
If Johnny say's it's Quaker State synthetic, you can take that to the bank. He used to work for Pennzoil...

While what I take to the bank is my concern and no one else's, my post was not intended to spark a crisis of faith. I merely pointed out an account that was supplied by an organization which lives or dies on the perceived value of its weekly reporting on petro-chemical affairs. You're, of course, entitled to attribute whatever degree of confidence you wish to what is presented, here or elsewhere - including that 2nd-hand account posted above from a former Pennzoil employee even longer removed from his former day-to-day affairs at Pennzoil than the date of the Lube Report online article I referenced. It's word of mouth rumor - though it could well be true.
 
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Originally posted by Ray H:

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Originally posted by G-Man II:
If Johnny say's it's Quaker State synthetic, you can take that to the bank. He used to work for Pennzoil...

While what I take to the bank is my concern and no one else's, my post was not intended to spark a crisis of faith. I merely pointed out an account that was supplied by an organization which lives or dies on the perceived value of its weekly reporting on petro-chemical affairs. You're, of course, entitled to attribute whatever degree of confidence you wish to what is presented, here or elsewhere - including that 2nd-hand account posted above from a former Pennzoil employee even longer removed from his former day-to-day affairs at Pennzoil than the date of the Lube Report online article I referenced. It's word of mouth rumor - though it could well be true.


Yeah, whatever.
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Correct, G-Man

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I think Hyundai is specifying 5w20 in most or all of their new engines, so it's probably 5w20.

My 2005 Accent all but demanded 5W20 (SL back then) in the book for ALL conditions, summer, and winter. Of course, that was written in 2004 or so I imagine, and they threw in the caveat that in cases of poor local supply for 5W20, 5W30, and 10W30 could be used. I guess 5W20 wasn't available in such abundance.

Ray's interpetation IS disturbing, however.
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Theoretically, this could set an unwelcome precedent regarding powertrain warranty claims if Hyundai comes back against owners with, "Golly, you didn't use the recommended motor oil? Really? Why ever in the world would you choose to invalidate your powertrain warranty?"

I wouldn't put it past them. I just had a tap-dance with the dealer over a leak in my manual tranny found by Tires Plus when they rotated my tires. Tires Plus pulled the fill plug, found it full, but recommended I take it to the dealer to get it checked out. Next day, the dealer's service rep tried to tell me that that Tires Plus checking it constituted tampering and they wouldn't cover the leak.

A chat with the service manager took care of THAT issue, but that's why they call them the StealerShip. The leak was a bad drain plug, supposedly, which they replaced, free, along with a tranny mounting bracket, also free. But only, I think, because I was armed with my knowledge of the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act which I quoted to said service manager with great vigor. Meanwhile, had I ignored the leak, they'd have denied over negligence..

So Ray's scenario doesn't seem so wild to me after my experience. They're the least honorable organizations there are in our retail community these dealers, and you'd best not mess too much with OCI or anything else if you value your warranty. That they would pull Ray's scenario on their customers just to make a deal in marketing simply isn't too far-fetched, Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act or not.
 
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Originally posted by Ray H:
Lube Report indicated last September that Hyundai's U.S. plant was supplied by Nippon Oil.

Nothing in that article stated that Hyundai was using Nippon oil exclusively. And the new Nippon plant wasn't due to be open until August 2006. Lot of room for all to be correct.
 
That factory uses a lot of other lubes besides motor oil. Nippon Oil could well be supplying other lubricants.

True, my last day with Shell was 10/31/2005 but I still have contacts within the company and I was told today, 9/20/06 that the factory fill at the Alabama plant was Quaker State Synthetic. I won't take it to the bank but I will take them at their word.

And as for as not honoring a warranty because someone did not use Quaker State is no more valid than Chevrolet cancelling your Corvette warranty because you did not use Mobil 1.

Carry on.
 
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