Hyundai/Kia Reliable?

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Youngest daughter just picked up a 2019 Hyundai C-HR LE with the 2.0, nice car, trade in her 07 Saturn ION.
 
FWIW I don't like giving money to foreign manufacturers who are non-union in the USA. There are better options than bottom of the line Hyundai/Kia products.
 
Originally Posted by Silverado12
FWIW I don't like giving money to foreign manufacturers who are non-union in the USA. There are better options than bottom of the line Hyundai/Kia products.

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Originally Posted by Malo83
Youngest daughter just picked up a 2019 Hyundai C-HR LE with the 2.0, nice car, trade in her 07 Saturn ION.


I think you meant Toyota since they make the C-HR.
 
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Originally Posted by wemay
Honda's V6 is DI, not PI.


Honda dropped the V6.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a10001820/honda-accord-v6-dead/


Your quoted statement which i was addressing is that "Honda uses port injection in its larger engine..."
The Pilot, Odyssey and Passport are all Direct Injected V6, as is the 2.0T engine replacing that V6 in the Accord. The premise was never what engine replaced the V6. It was a question of fuel delivery in Honda's larger engines. Either way, both the V6 and 2.0T are Di.

...and for the record, i would have no issue buying a Honda, or any other vehicle with DI.
 
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100k mile coverage is only for original owner buying new also. Plus in my opinion 100k is not a lot. I've never even owned a car with less than 115k miles.
 
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
100k mile coverage is only for original owner buying new also. Plus in my opinion 100k is not a lot. I've never even owned a car with less than 115k miles.

Yup, and they don't try to hide it. I now they used to let the 10/100 powertrain transfer if sold to family, not sure if that is still going on.
2nd owner only gets 5yr/60,000 bumper to bumper. What other manufacturer does that?
Most are 3/36, but I have seen some that are raising it to 5/60 (not sure if they transfer).
How long do you expect manufacturers to give a warranty for?
 
We were shopping years ago for a new car for my wife. We test drove all the common brands, Toyota Camry, Nissan Maxima,
Honda Accord, etc. Then she saw a new Hyundai Sonata and wanted to try it. I was skeptical just like you. This was in 2007.
After 9 years and 294,000 miles I can say it is a great car. It is still going to this day. We sold it to family member who needed
a reliable, inexpensive car. It was a Limited with the 3.3L V6. I should have kept it ....

We have replaced it with a new 2017 Sonata Limited and I have no worries about it. We both love it and for the price they are hard to
beat.
 
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Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
100k mile coverage is only for original owner buying new also. Plus in my opinion 100k is not a lot. I've never even owned a car with less than 115k miles.

Yup, and they don't try to hide it. I now they used to let the 10/100 powertrain transfer if sold to family, not sure if that is still going on.
2nd owner only gets 5yr/60,000 bumper to bumper. What other manufacturer does that?
Most are 3/36, but I have seen some that are raising it to 5/60 (not sure if they transfer).
How long do you expect manufacturers to give a warranty for?


I wasn't saying I expect them to give a longer warranty. Someone was basically saying no worries if it breaks down because the warranty is to 100k. Well if I ever owned a car with that few miles it wouldn't likely be less than 100k for too long. I expect any car to easily last more than 200k without costing me a fortune to keep up.
 
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
Well if I ever owned a car with that few miles it wouldn't likely be less than 100k for too long. I expect any car to easily last more than 200k without costing me a fortune to keep up.


I get what you are saying, but what other company even offers a warranty like that. My Mazda warranty is not even close.
 
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv


I wasn't saying I expect them to give a longer warranty. Someone was basically saying no worries if it breaks down because the warranty is to 100k. Well if I ever owned a car with that few miles it wouldn't likely be less than 100k for too long. I expect any car to easily last more than 200k without costing me a fortune to keep up.

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I don't think Hyundai is better than everyone else, but they have come a long way in a short time (comparatively), they started 15-20 years later than the Japanese here in the US and are right at their level now IMO.
They are starting their luxury brand Genesis now, not sure how that will turn out, but they do have some nice vehicles there as well.

I bought my first Hyundai in '04 (an Elantra GT), based on my sisters Sonata she had that she trashed and it still drove. When I look back, it was at that time frame that Hyundai was starting to be noticed more as not just a cheap car, but a respectable car that gave a lot of value.
 
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Originally Posted by Malo83
Youngest daughter just picked up a 2019 Hyundai C-HR LE with the 2.0, nice car, trade in her 07 Saturn ION.


I think you meant Toyota since they make the C-HR.

I stand corrected.
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Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
Well if I ever owned a car with that few miles it wouldn't likely be less than 100k for too long. I expect any car to easily last more than 200k without costing me a fortune to keep up.


I get what you are saying, but what other company even offers a warranty like that. My Mazda warranty is not even close.


The warranty is definitely a plus for a lot of people that are going to buy new every 100k or 10 years. For me if I was going to get with the times and upgrade my 1983 daily driver I would much rather have your Mazda. That said my coworker took advantage of that warranty on his 2011 Elantra when the transmission failed at 55k or something ridiculous like that. Now his warranty is long gone so if it happens again he'll be out a couple grand at least.

My girlfriend's 2013 Sonata is a nice car and has been reliable for her. But she doesn't drive far and it only has 60k miles on it. The look/smell of the oil under very short OCI doesn't look good for the long term of the engine and the research I have done makes it look much more serious than a lot of people on here believe.

Probably if you avoid the 2.0t and 2.4 you're likely to have a decent car.
 
Originally Posted by wemay
Our Santa Fe 2.0T has been the most reliable vehicle we've ever owned.



Sadly Wemay, you can say that over and over in these forums (I have) and you'll still find people bashing Hyundai / Kia vehicles. Although Mainia got a bad one, and he rarely passes a chance to point out the engine failure issue, he bought another Hyundai--interesting, but in the end it seems Hyundai took care of him satisfactorily.

Hyundai / Kia cannot deny they've had some engine failures in past years, I believe the 11% failure rate Mainia cites is highly exaggerated, in consideration of the total number of engines they produce worldwide. There's also a common inherent implication that Hyundai / Kia is continuing to produce poorly designed engines because they don't understand the nature / cause of the failure--I highly doubt that. This isn't H/K's first rodeo. . . .I'd sooner think that their designs continue to evolve to include production improvements that they don't necessarily want to publicize (to avoid liability exposure from older designs), just like any other major OEM does. I believe you can draw a direct correlation between the early Theta II failures and H/K's willingness to quietly warranty those failed engines, and replacing them with new engines with updated designs--they aren't obligated to divulge those changes, or to advertise the fact that they had problems in early designs. What matters is they care about making customers into repeat customers.

My son now owns the '14 SFS 2.0T that we had--I don't worry about that engine failing him. I now own a '19 SFU 2.4L, and I don't lose any sleep over that engine either.
 
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