Hyundai/Kia Reliable?

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Originally Posted by Silverado12
FWIW I don't like giving money to foreign manufacturers who are non-union in the USA. There are better options than bottom of the line Hyundai/Kia products.


Having been a union industrial construction employee and now retired with a pension from my union, I can't disagree with your statement except it doesn't work that way anymore.

GM building cars in China and Korea (Buick Envision and Encore), numerous vehicles made in Mexico in newly developed built plants there (Chevrolet Blazer the recent example), and numerous shutting down of US and Canadian plants.

Over the years I did work in many GM, Ford, Chrysler, Jeep, and Honda plants here in the states. I don't even want to get into some of the UAW employees attitude or lack of work ethics in some of those plants. I witnessed sabotage of new vehicles, employees allowing malfunctioning conveyor lines or equipment to damage tires, exhaust systems, body panels, etc. Didn't see that in the non-union Honda plant.

I would rather buy a vehicle made in the USA or Canada (many Toyota's, Honda's, Hyundai's, etc) and have some of that money go to a US or Canadian worker! I no longer look to see if it is UAW built or not. Not opposed to buying UAW or non UAW, just want it assembled in the US or Canada and a worker here or up there is getting paid. I know the "mothership" of those companies may be out of the US or Canada and are benefiting from my money also, but so are the workers here. Not true in many of the GM sales in my opinion.

I did end up purchasing a Honda Pilot (built in Lincoln, Alabama) instead of the Hyundai Santa Fe (built in Montgomery, Alabama). We decided the larger vehicle would be more suited to our needs.

Thanks for all of your comments and opinions.
 
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Originally Posted by Silverado12
FWIW I don't like giving money to foreign manufacturers who are non-union in the USA..



I do the opposite. I try now not to fund the union thug bosses. I wish there was another option for 3/4 ton trucks other than the big three as i will be in the market for one in the next year or two. As far as cars go, non union for where my dollars go.
 
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If you are looking at the Sorrento and Santa Fe XL, make sure you get the lambda II 3.3L V6 - it is their best engine to date, and seems to be free of the issues that their 4 cylinder engines have been experiencing.
 
Seems like many people really like their Kias/Hyundais, but I have such good results with Toyotas, I have no reason to look elsewhere. My '04 Corolla has 368K miles and still runs and drives fine (and everything still works), my wife's Sienna has been awesome so far, and my daughter's Yaris just turned 200K and has had very few problems. If I start having problems with Toyotas (which I don't foresee happening), the Korean makes might be a consideration...
 
Originally Posted by Uphill_Both_Ways
But what about the direct-injection issues that are sure to crop up sooner or later — low-speed pre-ignition, engine-oil dilution, intake-valve horror stories and whatever else that might crop up.


Honda uses port injection in its larger engine and Toyota uses both.

If the next car you buy will be your last, I'd think twice about Hyundai/Kia.

And there's this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hyundai-motor-raid-idUSKCN1Q9071



Unbelievable....let's sling some mud........EVERY manufacturer has had their moments. Audi/Toyota "unintended acceleration"-Ford too numerous to mention, 6.0 diesel, ignition locks, Ford Explorer Tire fiasco, Exploding (pinto) gas tanks,. You get the picture.
 
Originally Posted by CKN
Unbelievable....let's sling some mud........EVERY manufacturer has had their moments. Audi/Toyota "unintended acceleration"-Ford too numerous to mention, 6.0 diesel, ignition locks, Ford Explorer Tire fiasco, Exploding (pinto) gas tanks,. You get the picture.
The difference being that direct-injection problems, from fouled intake valves to low-speed pre-ignition and fuel-diluted engine oil are chronic and unending, meaning 3,000-mile oil changes like it's 1960 and valve jobs like it's 1925.

Catch can. Don't leave home without it.
 
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Originally Posted by Uphill_Both_Ways
Originally Posted by CKN
Unbelievable....let's sling some mud........EVERY manufacturer has had their moments. Audi/Toyota "unintended acceleration"-Ford too numerous to mention, 6.0 diesel, ignition locks, Ford Explorer Tire fiasco, Exploding (pinto) gas tanks,. You get the picture.
The difference being that direct-injection problems, from fouled intake valves to low-speed pre-ignition and fuel-diluted engine oil are chronic and unending, meaning 3,000-mile oil changes like it's 1960 and valve jobs like it's 1925.

Catch can. Don't leave home without it.



Catch cans are useless.

Hyundai/KIA engines don't have issues with IVD as far as I can tell. They use a two phase injection sequence to wash the back of the intake valve when open.
 
How are catch cans useless?

My girlfriend's 2013 Sonata pings pretty badly under light load when warmed up. It has about 60k on it. I would bet money that the pinging is due to intake valve deposits. I'm sure it doesn't happen to every one of them, highway driving and good maintenance should help, but in the long run carbon buildup can happen. I've seen some torn down on videos on YouTube with a lot of buildup.

It's her car and her responsibility so I'm not doing anything unless she asks. I did put a catch can on my Caprice however. It uses a little oil after 230k +
 
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My daughter had a 2004 Kia Rio that was a POS but granted she bought it used with about 98,000 miles on it. The transmission had just been replaced right before she bought it. It never seemed to run right even after I gave it a tune up. She finally blew the engine at around 130,000 when she ran it out of coolant. I will say that I wasn't sad to see it go.

Most people seem to have luck with the newer ones.
 
many USA vehicles are only name plates in this day of globality!! where they are assembled is just that, many american or not vehicles are ASSEMBLED in the USA with parts GLOBALLY sourced. take the big expensive GM pickups that use LESS parts from the USA than the rest, 40% is what i seen, ford is 75% + #1 toyota is 60%. so much for USA made.
 
Originally Posted by zzyzzx
Personally I would not buy any car that has a timing belt and interference engine, which I understand rules out Hyundai and Kia.



My elantra has a timing chain.
 
Originally Posted by zzyzzx
Personally I would not buy any car that has a timing belt and interference engine, which I understand rules out Hyundai and Kia.

Not sure where you heard that but I don't think they've had any timing belts in 10 years.
 
Originally Posted by zzyzzx
Personally I would not buy any car that has a timing belt and interference engine, which I understand rules out Hyundai and Kia.



You better get a new news source.
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Originally Posted by zzyzzx
Personally I would not buy any car that has a timing belt and interference engine, which I understand rules out Hyundai and Kia.

It is more than Hyundai/Kia that is off your list then, there are a lot of vehicles out there with belts and interference.
And as said, the current Hyundai 2.0, 2.4 and 3.3 are not belt driven engines (not sure about the interference part).
 
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