Zee09
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HPL Oil Concerns
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OVERKILL
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Yes, my ergo keyboard is getting a bit worn and sometimes misses letters, I wasn't implying you spelled it incorrectly, rather, I was looking for you to substantiate your statement. I would hardly call a single example, which I can't immediately locate on the linked site, sufficient evidence to support your claim.
Can you maybe provide some screenshots of what bothers you from the site?
OVERKILL
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You mean Dr. Leslie Rudnick....
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Shhhhh.....
Zee09
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I serious doubt many care about him. He certainly ain't no @AutoMechanic Of course I'm growing tired of him too.
and sometimes I feel like with some of the things that you discussed that there may be a Dr. Overkill as well....
Several. You may not like them.
1. They don’t market to consumers. Their core business is racing and large fleets.
2. Their website is a convenience for less than 1% of their customer base. That’s you.
3. Their packaging is excellent. The shipping boxes are the most robust I’ve ever seen. I keep them for other uses because they’re so nice.
4. You have not actually bought or used their oil.
5. You want them to pay more attention to the smallest market and meet your idea of what oil packaging should look like.
6. But even if they do, you still won’t buy from them.
7. You’re a troll?
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wemay
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I haven't confirmed the OP's claims but in my case, if true, multiple grammatical errors on product material and difficult website navigation are off-putting as it shows poor attention to detail. Would this 100% condemn the product as "poor quality?" No.
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I've asked him to post screenshots, I invite you to do the same. Their site is:
High Performance Lubricants | When Results Matter (hplubricants.com)
While I haven’t seen that on HPL’s website (although I have not read word for word the entire site), I have seen misspellings and grammar errors on other websites (non oil related) and like wemay said, poor attention to details.
I get it we are all human and mistakes do happen, and I’m sure it is unintentional as no one wants to make themselves look like they are not paying attention
Yes, they do that now. Earlier they had kept only the older certifications to allow for more robust additive packs. Stupid people thought they were "behind the times" but in fact they were doing that to make a better oil. After being blasted by the ignorant, RP later met the latest certification, but then were ripped to shreds for "watering down" their oil. I am very glad HPL is treated much better today.
wemay
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I'm not interested in HPL enough to do so. I trust it's a good product, just not for me. My stance is that if these things are true, I can appreciate a consumer being put off by it. If I were considering HPL, I would definitely do the research.
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I offered three before after searching for 30 seconds. Here's another: "Every batch of HPL oil are tested before...."
I am not a troll, but mostly correct otherwise.
I change the oil on a number of Honda's, a Porsche, a VW and a BMW. I drive in the Mid Atlantic.
Boy, let anyone say anything that resembles a possible negative statement about site sponsor and BITOG darling HPL and watch out, they come out in force to defend them
Fair enough. It is a matter of intent.
But your question is not new, and not original.
You might find all of your issues, save the website typos, discussed, at length, in these threads:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/so-what-is-the-deal-with-hpl-oil.367630/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...-what-makes-hpl-different-and-special.372825/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/alternate-thoughts-on-using-hpl.360198/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/high-performance-lubricants-hpl-vs-amsoil.363110/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/amsoil-or-hpl.358229/
The questions, and responses, will look familiar.
HPL may make superior products and have a Genius tribologist in Dr. Rudnick, but to be fair without an approval you are trusting the company and its staff and we really have no idea other than their reputation.
Without a approvals all we have is testimony of a few users that are backed up by a few UOAs, no tear downs to measure wear etc. Is this as good as an approval?
I am sure their products are good and I am not knocking HPL as I use their products, but I am operating on hearsay and a few anecdotal reports and I admit that.
I know some people are extremely critical of Valvoline Maxlife ATF because they don't have approvals and yet say they are compatible with 90% of transmissions. What is the difference? Maybe they don't want to spend time and $ on approvals?
As a site that claims to be analytical, it is funny how some blindly follow can anyone say AutoRx?
Without a approvals all we have is testimony of a few users that are backed up by a few UOAs, no tear downs to measure wear etc. Is this as good as an approval?
I am sure their products are good and I am not knocking HPL as I use their products, but I am operating on hearsay and a few anecdotal reports and I admit that.
I know some people are extremely critical of Valvoline Maxlife ATF because they don't have approvals and yet say they are compatible with 90% of transmissions. What is the difference? Maybe they don't want to spend time and $ on approvals?
As a site that claims to be analytical, it is funny how some blindly follow can anyone say AutoRx?
No, we have more than just the testimonials of a few users. The company has a presence on here and have accurately and properly answered multiple technical questions about their products, including from myself. At first I was skeptical of them as well but both here and in private communication they have proven their technical knowledge. You are correct it comes down to trust but they have proven themselves worth the trust.
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