How do you defend yourself from stray dogs?

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Originally Posted By: dishdude
I run 3-5 miles, 4-5 times a week. Encountering a dog has never even crossed my mind, cars with inattentive drivers behind the wheel are the only thing that ever concern me. Phone (music) strapped to my arm and a bottle of water for the first half of the trip are the only things on me. No way am I carrying a gun or pepper spray on me, the phone and water are annoying enough.


You could also go running with an inferior companion. When a dog attacks, you only need to outrun the slower companion.


Now you're thinking, a sacrificial old goat! I might need multiple, from the sounds of things I should be prepared to encounter several killer stray dogs along my journey.

For the record, Cujo wasn't based on a true story.


An old scapegoat would be perfect. Nobody cares two hoots about him.

Cujo? “The monster nevers dies.”

 

[jcwit]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Originally Posted By: dishdude
I run 3-5 miles, 4-5 times a week. Encountering a dog has never even crossed my mind, cars with inattentive drivers behind the wheel are the only thing that ever concern me. Phone (music) strapped to my arm and a bottle of water for the first half of the trip are the only things on me. No way am I carrying a gun or pepper spray on me, the phone and water are annoying enough.


You could also go running with an inferior companion. When a dog attacks, you only need to outrun the slower companion.


Now you're thinking, a sacrificial old goat! I might need multiple, from the sounds of things I should be prepared to encounter several killer stray dogs along my journey.

For the record, Cujo wasn't based on a true story.


Neither are most crime stories, but I have been confronted by BG's few times,the mere fact that I was armed solved the problem, didn't even need to draw.

Being armed is a good thing!

 

[dishdude]

What's a BG?

 

[BRZED]

It's a bad goat!

 

[dishdude]

 

[whip]

Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Careful unless you know the dog owners. Seriously.
If you kill a dog and the owner just so happens to be black... Hate crime.

Sad world we live in

My cousins dog was shot by his neighbor. The neighbor said the dog attacked, and he defended himself. No charges were filed. Are you really claiming that the neighbor would have been charged with a hate crime if my cousin was black?

If I'm on another person's property working, I'd be very hesitant to take Antiqueshell's advice about shooting to kill.

 

[The_Eric]

Originally Posted By: Srt20


Almost all times when dogs know you are the alpha, they will not challenge you.


This.

My mom groomed and showed dogs professionally- I've seen her handle seemingly very aggressive dogs with ease. If anyone thinks that because it's a show dog, it's different, you'd be wrong- you should see some of the hard tempered Chows or Rotts she's dealt with. She was ALWAYS alpha. PERIOD. End of story. They'd have a "Come to Jesus" session and then off to the ring or grooming area they'd go. For grooming, it could be anything from a raised voice, to a thump on the head with a steel comb, a thwack to the nose with a pin brush, or (my personal fav) a full on [censored] kicking where she would take them down and bite them on the ear or something until the dog tapped out so to speak. Whatever it takes to establish dominance. In all the dogs I've seen her handle, there was only one she couldn't do by herself. It was some little mutt- a psychotic little devil- maybe 10" at the shoulder and 20lbs? The owner was called and they groomed the wee-beastie together.

That's not to say that I wouldn't kill an animal (or person for that matter) in defense, but it would be my last resort. Loud aggressive moves and commands (works for the majority), then a punch or kick, then death. That would be the progression I would choose.


If we listened to people like antiqueshell, we'd all be carrying belt fed machine guns or flame throwers, or if you must be saddled with a lowly handgun then nothing less than something chambered in .50 AE (preferably .500 S&W) to kill on sight, all the menacing, potentially menacing or something that looks like it could be menacing animals that walk the streets.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Pepper Spray is the worst thing to have, encountering a running, darting-around dog. They move up and down, in and out, sideways too. Good luck trying to aim for their eyes.

I carry a billy club that's about 10 inches long. Had I carried a gun walking my dog for the past seven years, there would be 26 dead dogs in my neighborhood. Our homes are on-top of each other, so there are plenty of homes here. I walk out my side door onto my concrete driveway that's only wide enough for one vehicle. Then there's the four foot cyclone fence boundary and 40 inches beyond that, to the next house.

Try explaining all those shootings to the police every four months (on average). I would be facing a ton of lawsuits for all them dead dogs, trying to attack my German Miniature Schnauzer.

If you are a dog walker living in a crowded subdivision, carry a billy club and keep your eyes and ears open at all times. Some of these escaped dogs come-up from behind us. Those are always the most intense attacks, by both the attacking dog and then by me swinging that billy club.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: BRZED
It's a bad goat!


I actually have been attacked by a bad goat. The [censored] thing had me treed.

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: BRZED
It's a bad goat!


I actually have been attacked by a bad goat. The [censored] thing had me treed.


Goats even climb trees. You don't want a MOG (mean old goat) come after you.No kidding!

 

[The_Eric]

Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Originally Posted By: Srt20


Almost all times when dogs know you are the alpha, they will not challenge you.


This.

My mom groomed and showed dogs professionally- I've seen her handle seemingly very aggressive dogs with ease. If anyone thinks that because it's a show dog, it's different, you'd be wrong- you should see some of the hard tempered Chows or Rotts she's dealt with. She was ALWAYS alpha. PERIOD. End of story. They'd have a "Come to Jesus" session and then off to the ring or grooming area they'd go. For grooming, it could be anything from a raised voice, to a thump on the head with a steel comb, a thwack to the nose with a pin brush, or (my personal fav) a full on [censored] kicking where she would take them down and bite them on the ear or something until the dog tapped out so to speak. Whatever it takes to establish dominance. In all the dogs I've seen her handle, there was only one she couldn't do by herself. It was some little mutt- a psychotic little devil- maybe 10" at the shoulder and 20lbs? The owner was called and they groomed the wee-beastie together.

That's not to say that I wouldn't kill an animal (or person for that matter) in defense, but it would be my last resort. Loud aggressive moves and commands (works for the majority), then a punch or kick, then death. That would be the progression I would choose.


If we listened to people like antiqueshell, we'd all be carrying belt fed machine guns or flame throwers, or if you must be saddled with a lowly handgun then nothing less than something chambered in .50 AE (preferably .500 S&W) to kill on sight, all the menacing, potentially menacing or something that looks like it could be menacing animals that walk the streets.


Whoops... I guess it's GiveMeAVowel now.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: whip

If I'm on another person's property working, I'd be very hesitant to take Antiqueshell's advice about shooting to kill.


If you feel the need get, on the sidewalk or street before you shoot it.

Again if owners are letting their vicious, potentially deadly dogs run at large they must accept the consequences, and as long as you are in the legal right to defend yourself with deadly force there will be NO lawsuits, as the court will laugh them out of the building, if anything the magistrate may serve the dog owner with filing a frivolous lawsuit.

What would change this problem for good is if we would have a national open season on vicious dogs running at large.

 

[SatinSilver]

I don't want to jinx myself since I've had about six loose dogs come at me this summer and haven't been bit. I walk an hour just about every day. I'm on the sidewalk walking and close by their yard. Instead of being bit blindly from behind I turn around and square up with them. Put hands on my hips, look at them and ask them what they're going to do?

These are larger mix breed types. One was a pit bull mix that looked pretty vicious but the owner was running behind her saying she was friendly. Tail was wagging luckily but she did sniff my leg and then was fine. I like dogs but can't stand biters.

Had a large female boxer mix come running at me barking that I squared up on. She went running back in the house as quickly as she came out.

If I were you, I'd drop the equipment you're carrying, put hands on hips and square up with them. See if they want to dance.

On the local police facebook page it has tons of stray dogs posted. Luckily they get claimed quickly by the owners. Except for the pics of the K9 officer all the others are ones that got loose:

https://www.facebook.com/North-Ridgeville-Police-Department-189080547779140/photos

 

[whip]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
If you feel the need get, on the sidewalk or street before you shoot it.

Again if owners are letting their vicious, potentially deadly dogs run at large they must accept the consequences, and as long as you are in the legal right to defend yourself with deadly force there will be NO lawsuits.....

I doubt there would be legal issues, but shooting a dog in a clients drive way isn't good for business. Neither is shooting a dog in the street in front of the clients kids. I'd use other options before I ever pulled a gun.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: whip


I doubt there would be legal issues, but shooting a dog in a clients drive way isn't good for business. Neither is shooting a dog in the street in front of the clients kids. I'd use other options before I ever pulled a gun.


Obviously, again I am speaking about when the dog is clearly vicious and in the act of trying to bite you. If while at a clients property I can do something I sure I will, but if I feel the danger is serious enough deadly force will be used.

 

[stockrex]

Top Ten options to defend thy chunky behind from stray dogs:

1. take a Korean buddy along.
2. take your pet pitt bull along (one you rescued from Mike Vic)
3. Take a taser along
4. Take an extra sharp pitch fork along
5. Take some juicy pork steaks along (work in the movies)
6. Take a sacrificial cat along (sorry cat luver)
7. Call bill cosby for some bottles of his fav drink and put it out in a pet water bowl.
to be continued.....

 

[lubricatosaurus]

Originally Posted By: stockrex
Top Ten options to defend thy chunky behind from stray dogs:

1. take a Korean buddy along.
2. take your pet pitt bull along (one you rescued from Mike Vic)
3. Take a taser along
4. Take an extra sharp pitch fork along
5. Take some juicy pork steaks along (work in the movies)
6. Take a sacrificial cat along (sorry cat luver)
7. Call bill cosby for some bottles of his fav drink and put it out in a pet water bowl.
to be continued.....


Very hilarious, but its Vietnamese, not Korean, right? I remember when I once saw a Vietnamese Restaurant right next door to a pet shop, no kidding. Too many jokes for that one! .............. Great Cosby reference, very clever.

8. Wear a dog catcher's uniform.

 

[zzyzzx]

Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
I remember when I once saw a Vietnamese Restaurant right next door to a pet shop, no kidding.


I wish you had a camera with you then.

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
Very hilarious, but its Vietnamese, not Korean, right?


Dog is on the menu in China, Indonesia, Korea, Mexico, Philippines, Polynesia, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Arctic and Antarctic and two cantons in Switzerland.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Need a pretty darn big bun for those wiener dogs.