Fuel shortage

[SwampSurvivor]

3 of the vehicles in our fleet don't get driven regurlarly and are stored with a full tank. So that's 13 for the Sentra, 34 for the F-350 and 20 for the Cherokee. I'm good for a while.

I did have to get lawnmower gas. I'm sure I looked like I was hoarding filling up my gas can. I make sure to grab the smallest gas can I had.

 

[Andrew1972]

Naw. This is the left green new deal agenda. Trying to prove their point that if we all had battery operated Cars that an oil problem would not effect us. What they do not understand is that the electric plants still run on coal and oil.

So untill we find a new energy source that we can use to power the grid or find a way to make super dooper solar panels that can power a car the green deal can't be utilized.

 

[Chris142]

. Was asked by a number of folks how able to fill up - proudly proclaimed "its a diesel" - diesel was running about .20 more than usual ($2.99 vs $2.79). .

I would have acted dumb and told them that I just swipped my card and started pumping. Not really a lie...

 

[Wolf359]

Naw. This is the left green new deal agenda. Trying to prove their point that if we all had battery operated Cars that an oil problem would not effect us. What they do not understand is that the electric plants still run on coal and oil.

So until we find a new energy source that we can use to power the grid or find a way to make super dooper solar panels that can power a car the green deal can't be utilized.

Power plants basically run on gas and coal. Very little of it is oil although gas plants could probably run on oil if they are permitted for it in an emergency, just cheaper to run on gas. Our local grid is basically gas, nuclear and hydro. Basically nationwide, it's 40% gas, 20% coal, 20% nuclear, 20% renewables. Oil is .4%

https://www.iso-ne.com/

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq....lectricity,was from renewable energy sources.

Look to Zero Point Energy if you want to figure out a mysterious energy source. No one can figure out how to use it or what it is exactly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

 

[loneryder]

There is plenty of gas, not a shortage, but it can’t get to the stations, a supply problem.

There’s plenty of gas, you just can’t get it. If you can’t get it the supply must be short.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Power plants basically run on gas and coal. Very little of it is oil although gas plants could probably run on oil if they are permitted for it in an emergency, just cheaper to run on gas. Our local grid is basically gas, nuclear and hydro. Basically nationwide, it's 40% gas, 20% coal, 20% nuclear, 20% renewables. Oil is .4%

https://www.iso-ne.com/

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq....lectricity,was from renewable energy sources.

Look to Zero Point Energy if you want to figure out a mysterious energy source. No one can figure out how to use it or what it is exactly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

Of the 20% of renewables, it’s interesting that wind has now exceeded hydro.

 

[NYEngineer]

Figures. I've been waiting twenty plus years to build this 68 Plymouth roadrunner I've been hangin' onto... Buying the best of the best parts, my youngest is a year away from college so I'll need a project...
Now this. I may have to build it to run on alcohol.

 

[Rob_Roy]

Of the 20% of renewables, it’s interesting that wind has now exceeded hydro.

Well, it depends if the wind is blowing or not. Hydro makes up about 80% of the renewable energy where I live.

As for the gasoline shortage, we have seen a small bump in prices locally but no shortages.

 

[FordSVTGuy]

Pipeline back up and running. Everyone can calm the heck down now…

 

[Snagglefoot]

Well, it depends if the wind is blowing or not. Hydro makes up about 80% of the renewable energy where I live.

As for the gasoline shortage, we have seen a small bump in prices locally but no shortages.

And yes, the wind blew enough to exceed hydro’s output. 338 billion kwhrs vs 291 billion kwhrs from the info in posting #84. I too am a fan of hydro ( living in BC) but looks like wind blew hydro away in the USA. Don’t mind the pun. When integrated with a multi sourced energy grid, wind becomes a real deal. I understand wind will be a big part of New York’s future, especially after shutting down the Indian Point Reactor just a few weeks ago.

 

[Chris142]

Figures. I've been waiting twenty plus years to build this 68 Plymouth roadrunner I've been hangin' onto... Buying the best of the best parts, my youngest is a year away from college so I'll need a project...
Now this. I may have to build it to run on alcohol.

Take the jets out of the carbureators. And add compression!

 

[Davejam]

There’s plenty of gas, you just can’t get it. If you can’t get it the supply must be short.

False. When people are buying days worth of gasoline in hours stations are going to run out.
Supply is fine, but demand has irrationally sky rocketed.

 

[zzyzzx]

Pipeline back up and running. Everyone can calm the heck down now…

There are a number of uncertainties about restarting the pipeline, which had never been shut down entirely before last week. Industry experts have warned of residual delays, noting it takes between 15 to 18 days for the fuel to flow the entire length of the pipeline.

Federal officials explained that people may still feel the supply crunch even after Colonial restarts operations.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/natio...-pipeline-gas-disruptions-expected-to-persist

 

[zzyzzx]

Gas more expensive around here, but generally speaking it's available.

 

[Snagglefoot]

There are a number of uncertainties about restarting the pipeline, which had never been shut down entirely before last week. Industry experts have warned of residual delays, noting it takes between 15 to 18 days for the fuel to flow the entire length of the pipeline.

Federal officials explained that people may still feel the supply crunch even after Colonial restarts operations.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/natio...-pipeline-gas-disruptions-expected-to-persist

Certainly that is true and technically the pipeline was always filled with gasoline but the bulk tanks on surface at each terminal were getting low. Also the real choke point would have been not enough tank trucks to make all the deliveries simultaneously. I wonder how many terminal tanks actually were drawn down to near empty. Some of these tanks at pipeline terminals are huge. I believe the largest can hold 42 million gallons ( 1 million bbls).

 

[zzyzzx]

Also the real choke point would have been not enough tank trucks to make all the deliveries simultaneously. I wonder how many terminal tanks actually were drawn down to near empty.

I have a feeling that we will never know. According to gas buddy, there are parts of town with clusters of gas stations that are out of gas, but a part of town nearby every gas station has gas.

 

[Blinker]

I’m glad to hear the pipeline is back online. I really do hope the people who panicked pumped and hoarded gasoline take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves if it was worth it.

 

[Snagglefoot]

I’m glad to hear the pipeline is back online. I really do hope the people who panicked pumped and hoarded gasoline take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves if it was worth it.

Lots of plastic jerry cans will go onto Flea Bay.

 

[JeffKeryk]

False. When people are buying days worth of gasoline in hours stations are going to run out.
Supply is fine, but demand has irrationally sky rocketed.

People hoarding contributes to the problem.
So do delivery issues.

There was no gas shortage; there was a delivery problem, combined with hoarding, that resulted in a supply problem.
When a gas station does not have product to sell, that's a supply problem.

 

[JohnnyG]

The latest news is saying there is a tanker driver shortage. I don't doubt that a bit.