Weeding Out The Bad Fuel Stations

Almost 1 week after filling up with the new stations fuel and zero issues. The van idles smooth and accelerates fast without any hesitation.. even while running E40 fuels. again the only reason I don't name the station is because everytime I do, the station gets over run with those wanting to cash in on the good gas.. so it's our own little secret.
 
I never worry about refinery output quality, or the truck's tank being dirty, or them dropping the wrong additive amount or pump into the wrong octane tank intentionally consistently (the customers would notice).

What I have problem with is usually whether the underground tank is leaking and water gets in. I assume they won't cheat at the metering because they would be regularly checked (at least in our county) and heavily fined.
 
I never worry about refinery output quality, or the truck's tank being dirty, or them dropping the wrong additive amount or pump into the wrong octane tank intentionally consistently (the customers would notice).

What I have problem with is usually whether the underground tank is leaking and water gets in. I assume they won't cheat at the metering because they would be regularly checked (at least in our county) and heavily fined.

You'd be surprised. Some of the truckers posting here who have done fuel deliveries have mentioned how some gas station owners have asked for them to cheat on a delivery. Maybe not something like the wrong additive when it's a branded station, but perhaps something like regular when it's supposed to be premium at an independent. They're common carriers who could face legal liability for that.
 
You'd be surprised. Some of the truckers posting here who have done fuel deliveries have mentioned how some gas station owners have asked for them to cheat on a delivery. Maybe not something like the wrong additive when it's a branded station, but perhaps something like regular when it's supposed to be premium at an independent. They're common carriers who could face legal liability for that.
Yes sure. What I'm trying to say is, there's county clerk who would come and check once in a while and if caught would be fined. I don't normally get 91 so this is not an issue to me but when I'm getting 91 for a specific car I always get it from a major brand station like Shell or Chevron, not Rotten Robbie or some no name mom and pop for 91.
 
Oh, no... you misunderstand. The way he described it, they could load several gas stations' fuel into one truck at the same terminal. So one truck might deliver to multiple gas stations, all of which might be different brands/additives.
True enough. However, none of the product loaded from the same facility could be called "BAD", only difference being additves.
That would be a smaller operation too. Mostly independents. Branded stations don't want to incur excess delivery charges for small quantities. They size their storage tanks accordingly so that a whole load is dispatched and will fit.
 
Just stick with TT stations. Like others have said, it's all the same base gas, only the additives are different.

I'll avoid stations that were formerly mom 'n' pop that are now top tier since they use the same tank and [presumably?] pumps. But, it's impossible to know the branding and maintenance history of every single station around you (unless that's your hobby:p)
Or what you did for 28 years!
 
Yes sure. What I'm trying to say is, there's county clerk who would come and check once in a while and if caught would be fined. I don't normally get 91 so this is not an issue to me but when I'm getting 91 for a specific car I always get it from a major brand station like Shell or Chevron, not Rotten Robbie or some no name mom and pop for 91.

Even more obscure. In California, weights and measures is the responsibility of each county's agricultural commissioner. Gas pumps. Supermarket or butcher scales. Even San Francisco has an agricultural commissioner They call it the "Sealer".

https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/exec/county/Sealer.html

Here's a sample:

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I've seen a few antique gas pumps that are still in operation. There was one station near Walnut Creet that had all these old pumps, including classic glass vial dispensers where the fuel was hand pumped to a level, and then the fuel was gravity fed. I believe they were exempt from emissions requirements for vapor recovery systems. But there were weights and measures seal on those too.

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Almost 1 week after filling up with the new stations fuel and zero issues. The van idles smooth and accelerates fast without any hesitation.. even while running E40 fuels. again the only reason I don't name the station is because everytime I do, the station gets over run with those wanting to cash in on the good gas.. so it's our own little secret.
So you think by identifying the so-called "good" station on this forum will cause the station to be overrun by BITOG members seeking quality fuel??? :ROFLMAO: I doubt there are even two BITOG members within 100 miles of your top secret location.
 
even that scenario is un-likely. there are live analyzers on all products when they change hands (demakation point) and metered. we can tell how far out of spec and how many barrels came through out of spec. sometimes this can be fixed by blending in enough on-spec fluid, sometimes the materials have to be slopped to re-refine. highly regulated stuff with many third party labs also pulling samples to verify.
Talking to a guy with a convenience store - he told me the Exxon QAQC’s show up randomly and test fuel for marker content - as that relates to UCL and detergents - other chemicals. … Assume others do too …
 
When I first saw this thread, my mind went back to the early '80s when a Direct gas station opened next to the McDonalds in the town I grew up in. The prices were several cents cheaper (per gallon) than the 'name brands' nearby. Keep in mind, back then gas was under a dollar a gallon, so this was a big deal.

However, buying their 87-octane resulted in a tankful of "rattle gas" vs the Chevron or Shell 87. I want to say the premium was OK, which is what I would put in my Camaro whenever I bought gas there.

I moved away (to college) a couple of years later, so I don't know how long it stayed in business.
 
In over 50 years of driving and buying the most convenient and lesser priced gasoline I have yet to have ever had any problems with bad fuel. But the day is still young, so perhaps I will later on.
 
In over 50 years of driving and buying the most convenient and lesser priced gasoline I have yet to have ever had any problems with bad fuel. But the day is still young, so perhaps I will later on.
Same, but I fill up at Exxon and Shell almost exclusively, and other major brands when I can't find one of those. And generally avoid sketchy looking stations. Probably some luck in there, but gasoline is pretty well regulated, so I think the only thing you really have to worry about is contamination at the station.
 
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