Because aftermarket oil filters are used on everything? I've seen plenty of dealers use aftermarket filters when necessary. Won't be a problem going forward, PUP and Mopar filters.
Agreed
The mission used to be to provide the best protection for the engine. The mission has now changed to have the least number of hurdles.
GDI Turbo engine, 2.5% over 5000ish miles is pretty solid.
Oil change monitor, not to exceed 10,000 miles for the 2.0T and the 3.6. The 6.4L is not to exceed 6000 miles. Or see below...
Per the manual:There is one thing that most miss and that's the "Severe Use" schedule which is probably ~5K miles.
99.9% of us fall in this category according to the OM definition of what it is, but hardly any owner ever considers it.
This is probably what your dealer was referring to whe it suggested the OC.
oh...never heard of it.
You've never heard of Gas Direct Injection?
That's being nice, it's been in most new vehicles in at least 10 years and I think GM started using it like 20 years ago?
Does the iOLM actually yield 10,000 mile intervals with this engine? Because that seems MUCH longer than what the iOLM in my SRT or our RAM 1500 yield.
Yes, I have heard of it....being sarcastic.
My Sahara 4xe was showing 1% oil life remaining when it was changed at 11 months and 5,880 miles. I believe that the shorter interval is due to the fact that the engine starts and shuts off frequently- and the Fuel Oil Refresh Mode (FORM) only partially compensates for that.
Yeah, and my first change on my SRT was at 1% and it was at 9,584km (5,955 miles).
Jesus that’s ridiculousUpdate...
After the reprogramming in April, I changed the oil that weekend with M1EP 5w30 with the illustrious MS-13340 spec. In early June, the same condition occurred (hesitation, CEL) and a restart allowed it to drive normal and the light cleared itself shortly after.
Took it in, same code, this time they identified the oil control valves. I made sure that the oil level was perfect before I dropped it off, including a time stamped picture for my own records. Their comments included that it had an aftermarket filter (Carquest Blue) and they require that I get an oil change when they change the oil control valves because they needed to know that a Mopar filter was on it. Because of their insistence and not wanting the BITOG pearl clutching again, I obliged.
Took a couple weeks to get in back in due to parts ordering and then I asked questions about the oil change, I had seen a sign that they would use your oil, so as I had made the switch to M1EP, I was going to have them use that. However, they were now saying that they needed to know it had factory oil in it.The advisor seemed quite perturbed that I was even asking but I explained that I prefer to use the same oil all the time. Finally got out of them that they use PUP (also MS-13340).
So you can bet your behind that this Jeep will have PUP and Mopar filters for the rest of it's life.
In case anyone is curious...
Oil change: $15 labor
Filter: $13.45
PUP: 5 x $14.00
$106.45
In for the vilification
My point was.........sucking at something, just because everyone else sucks, does not mean one gets a passing grade..........best of junk is still junk.
The Alfa Stelvio and Giulia forums are full of people who followed the 9k mile or 1 year interval from the dashboard, and there are many many reports of P06DD errors on the forum over the past couple of years.
So these vehicles don't have the iOLM that the Jeep/Dodge/RAM/Chrysler vehicles have?
OK, so this is more like the Toyota brain-dead mileage counter (which has been a similar problem for Toyota owners as what you describe), it baffles me why OEM's do this stuff, particularly in this case, since they have access to iOLM software already.
