Fluoride number one cause of death?

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Its amazing to me how conspiracy oriented our society has become today. The amount of half-truths and slanted science that passes for mainstream truth and fact is truly sad. This goes both ways. Even smart, intelligent people get caught up in what they think they know, and not realizing what they don't know.

All that being said, I am comfortable with the levels of fluoridation in my drinking water thank you very much. If you aren't, go ahead and buy your bottled drinking water which has just about zero regulations on what can be in it. Food for thought...
 
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
How about this for the conspiracy theorists? Think of all the people who were born in the 50's and 60's that died at early ages from cancer. I know a lot of them, and heard and read that vaccinations they got as children might have been a cause for some of the cancers responsible for their deaths. Food for thought.


Or more than likely above ground nuclear tests, I remember being warned at school not to eat the snow because of fallout. We also had elevated levels of radiation "Strontium 90 IIRC" in the milk.


Lots of stories like that. I have a buddy a little older than I am who recalls back in the late 50's and early 60's {IIRC} spraying for mosquitoes from trucks during the summer. He said the kids would run behind them to cool off. At least now they do it from the sky and warn you to stay inside.
 
Perhaps flouridation pacifies you into accepting government mandates unquestioningly or mostly makes you dont care what happens.

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There he discovered that I.G.Farben had developed plans during the war to fluoridate the occupied countries, because it had been found that fluoridation caused slight damage to specific parts of the brain. This damage had a very particular effect. It mad it more difficult for the person affected to defend his freedom. He became more docile towards authority.


Perhaps the people who poo poo this simply are affected by the poison and dont know it, simply following the will of their masters. Luke warm and numbed out.
http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm
 
Originally Posted By: sdowney717

Perhaps the people who poo poo this simply are affected by the poison and dont know it, simply following the will of their masters. Luke warm and numbed out.
http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm

I went through 3 tinfoil hats trying to get through the article. I'll need to order more to finish it.
 
Fluoride is what a chemist will call an anti-revolution agent. It helps populace keep it under boil regardless of the condition. It is obvious that without the Fluoride, we would have thrown these bums years ago!

(sarcasm is hard to come across on internet, isn't it??)

- Vikas
 
Not so dumb chemical scientists have said that fluoridation was criminal
http://www.rense.com/general79/hd3.htm

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Quoting Einstein`s nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952:

"It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next' on the agenda of the water poisoners.


Whether any of this is true or not, I find it amazing that today with EPA all over toxic environmental poisons,this one gets the nod.
 
Originally Posted By: sdowney717
Whether any of this is true or not, I find it amazing that today with EPA all over toxic environmental poisons,this one gets the nod.

I think the second part of your sentence provides the answer to the first
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Originally Posted By: MNgopher

Its amazing to me how conspiracy oriented our society has become today. The amount of half-truths and slanted science that passes for mainstream truth and fact is truly sad. This goes both ways. Even smart, intelligent people get caught up in what they think they know, and not realizing what they don't know.

If you aren't, go ahead and buy your bottled drinking water which has just about zero regulations on what can be in it. Food for thought...


Shannow came out swinging with the half-truth of tooth damage. Stating "tooth damage" makes it sound like your teeth will rot and fall out, rather than the cosmetic damage that can occur from overexposure to fluoride. He also neglected to mention there is zero risk of dental fluorosis for anyone who has their adult teeth in and that the risk is for those 3mo to age 8.

Another one being that the source for fluoride is toxic waste from the fertilizer industry. While a semi-truthful statement, the source (of some of the fluoride) is a byproduct that is further processed before being used in water treatment.

Then again, it wouldn't make it nearly as interesting or have the same ability to cause alarm if all the facts were presented.

Yep, bottled water is of no better quality and often worse than tap water.

I've seen the test results (in person) of the amount of coliforms, Escherichia and others, that show up in bottled water. When I say in person, I mean looking at the growth in the petri dishes. It varies by brand and source. Some of the worst were the local bottle waters either sourced from a filter at the store or from one of the water companies that play heavily on the fear, paranoia, and ignorance to sell filters and those 5-gal water coolers.

Local tap water where the test took place? Zero bacteria and a guarantee of what else is in the water (EPA and state DNR mandatory testing and yearly water quality reports). In this case low iron and calcium levels. Municipal water supplies should zero levels of coliforms because any presence of them indicates a water quality problem and the presence of them requires reporting to the state DNR (requirements vary by state). Depending on the size of the municipal water supply, some tests will be done in house while the ones requiring more complex equipment are sent to outside labs. Tests are run on a daily basis for pH levels and weekly for fecal-coliforms. Monthly tests are done for levels of other substances as well as a confirmation on the local fecal-coliform tests. Also back in the early 1990s all the water systems in the country had to undergo lead and copper sampling and then establish monitoring programs based on the results. Most of the lead and copper (particularly lead) is actually from the plumbing in the building. That can be remedied by flushing the water for a minute or so in your house if it has set undisturbed in your pipes for more than 24 hours.

As for the Nazi mind control agents in your drinking water:

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The active ingredient in Prozac is fluoxetine hydrochloride. This is C17H18F3NO•HCl.

Sodium fluoride is NaF.
Fluorosilicic acid is H2SiF6.
Sodium fluorosilicate of fluoride is Na2SiF6.

The three chemicals used for fluoridation are chemically different than the compound used in Prozac.


Now, I'm no chemist, but I remember enough from chemistry classes to understand that the molecular structure of compounds effects their properties and interactions with other biological and non-biological substances.

Just for fun, here is a list of some other common medications containing fluorine (excluding psychotropics):

-Prevacid
-Cipro
-Levaquin
-Diflucan
-Lipitor
-Celebrex
-Advair
-Cloderm
-Avodart
-Aerobid
-Flonase

The Nazi myth is just that. Its primary source is from Charles Perkins who claims someone form IG Farben who also happened to be a Nazi told him.... etc etc. It should also be noted that Perkins makes no reference in his book to the Nazi's using fluoride. He actually states it was an idea floated by the Russian's. The only Nazi connection is that the scientist that (allegedly) told Perkins about this was "prominent in the Nazi movement".

E.H. Bronner whom all the pro-fluoride conspiracy sites make sure to attach Einstein's name to to lend his claims an air of legitimacy was a soap manufacturer.

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Fluoride is what a chemist will call an anti-revolution agent. It helps populace keep it under boil regardless of the condition. It is obvious that without the Fluoride, we would have thrown these bums years ago!

(sarcasm is hard to come across on internet, isn't it??)

- Vikas


There's no doubt that the fluoride added to water is a powerful substance. It plays a huge role in cognitive dysfunction and paranoia - and you don't even have to consume it.
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Originally Posted By: Al

I went through 3 tinfoil hats trying to get through the article. I'll need to order more to finish it.


Hey Al, I've got a business proposition for you. I'm pretty sure we could get some of the fans and customers of those websites that have been cited as proof to buy some new 100% natural herbal remedies I've been considering bringing to market:

- "Breath-Free" containing "extract of Conium maculatum" as a treatment for respiratory conditions.

- "Coloneeze" to treat irritable bowel syndronmn and "Natur-Doze" as a sleep aid, both fortified with "Banewort root extract".

I can't believe that with all the concern over fluoride we haven't talked about what a first rate killer dihydrogen monoxide is.
 
Forget the flouride, the dihydrogen monoxide is the real problem here...
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Thanks for elegantly putting into detail my thoughts on the matter. I am a water resources engineer by trade, but drinking water supply is not my area of expertise. I've heard enough from folks I respect and trust in the industry here to make my decision.
 
Here, here! Great reply! Fear and paranoia rein with such moonbats. So few actually understand chemistry. Good old toxic flouride in the water....yet they're not at all concerned about sodium chloride. Each of them alone is quite reactive and sodium is a metal, for gosh sakes! Why eat metal? It's toxic!! Chlorine goes in pools! and bleach! and accelerates corrosion!!! Eeek! Bronners stuff is still on the shelves! They clearly don't understand the difference between an element and a compound, which is pretty fundamental chemistry.

+1 on your comments regarding dihydrogen monoxide...very dangerous stuff. Many die from inhaling it every year yet nothing is done. I'm shocked SHOCKED!
 
Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Shannow came out swinging with the half-truth of tooth damage. Stating "tooth damage" makes it sound like your teeth will rot and fall out, rather than the cosmetic damage that can occur from overexposure to fluoride. He also neglected to mention there is zero risk of dental fluorosis for anyone who has their adult teeth in and that the risk is for those 3mo to age 8.


There you go telling lies again, and putting words in people's mouths.

I stated that the American Dental Association and the CDC recommended halving the levels for those reasons, and recomended not feeding babies formula made exclusively with formula made exclusively from fluoridated water...

Where's the "half truths" in that ???

YOU made the rest of MY "argument" up...including your statement about chlorine...
 
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Originally Posted By: sdowney717
Whether any of this is true or not, I find it amazing that today with EPA all over toxic environmental poisons,this one gets the nod.


Try releasing it in the wastewater of your power station and see if the EPA cares...it's one of the reportable pollutants, and paid for under load based licencing.
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: sdowney717

Perhaps the people who poo poo this simply are affected by the poison and dont know it, simply following the will of their masters. Luke warm and numbed out.
http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm

I went through 3 tinfoil hats trying to get through the article. I'll need to order more to finish it.


I just LOL'd hard, HAAHAAHHA that was AWESOME!
 
Buickman, so you are in favour of compulsory community medication...

yes or no ?

What other medications would you accept being added to the water ?
 
people who blindly accept that their water is 'clean' due to the regulations imposed by the government are just as gullible as anyone wearing a tinfoil hat.

I've opened my tap in a house in Florida and seen colored water come out. MMMMM, drink up. Don't you feel safe?

You just know that all those dedicated gov't employees are out there protecting you....aren't they?
 
For example chlorine is used in the the Pearl basin, it's a shallow basin but also the largest source. Pollution is seeping from Pearl Harbor. Well they tells us some chlorine is added...PS I don't drink that water from that area even with a carbon filter since I have a choice. A new water source drilled 5 miles deep will replace the Pearl basin for home usage and the Pearl for other uses. I know for a fact how much chlorine is dump into the water source but just don't tell the public about it just say well we add chlorine but the concentration of chlorine is not the same in geographic areas since all the water sources are connected. By comparison the Pearl basin well I'll take that water over in California. California is another matter, their ag may have problems in their soil 30-50 years down the road, mainly because of what's in their water source ... same water residents drink? Hawaii sees California.

By comparison Hawaii has one of the most cleanest water source because of the trade winds that brings moisture to the Islands with almost no air pollutants from rain water. It's an Island.
 
I don't think city tap water is as clean and healthy as some suggest or that bottled water is always worse.

Bottled water like Dasani and Aquafina for example is city water that is further filtered and purified and is what the soda bottlers use. I doubt it would have more contaminates in it. The bottlers have a lot of expensive equipment and a products' reputation to maintain.

So is flouride safe or not? What about chlorine? There are a lot of susbstance and chemicals present and allowed for in tap water, even medication residues in some cases.

I drink mostly from gallons of Nestle Pure life water. I really like Fiji water but can't justify the price. Am I tin-foiled-hatted for believing that city water isn't very pure and bottled water is better?
 
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I run my drinking water through a charcoal filter, no tin hat here either. A few years back my buddy across the street and I took his pool tester and checked the tap water for chlorine, as it turned out there was less chlorine in his pool than what was coming out of his faucet. BTW the pool was in the safe zone on the tester. No point for me drinking that [censored] if I don't have to.
 
Originally Posted By: GMFan
There is no real science in this country anymore...science is based on whatever specific lobbying group is giving politicians the most money. A perfect example of this is ethanol in our gasoline.


Lots of truth here..
 
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