Obesity

[RDY4WAR]

I have to have some carbs. When I did keto, was in ketosis, I had horrible brain fog. My attention span was about 10 seconds.

 

[supton]

4 million years of human evolution, where we adapted to eat what we could get - lots of vegetables, some fruit, nuts, and meat, depending how good you were at hunting. If you can’t pull it out of the ground, off a tree, or kill it yourself, it ain’t really what we were designed to eat.

8,000 years of agriculture. We haven’t yet adapted to grains, further, since there isn’t any evolutionary pressure to adapt, we aren’t likely to adapt much.

Off topic--sometimes I wonder if we would be here today if we hadn't figured out cheap carbs to fuel our brains for the last couple hundred years. Bad for the individual, good for society. Bit like performance enhancing drugs (or drugs in general)--great until the side effects hit.

But whatever might have been a "good" amount to fuel brains, we're well past it now.

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I have to chuckle. Wife and I are not great eaters, but our daughter... when we would go out to eat, starting at a young age, she would ask to have fries swapped for a salad. Not you typical 5 year old! She's become a picky eater, but in a good way. Too bad our other one didn't go that way, but he's on the autism spectrum, so that's been no help. That's less funny.

I have to have some carbs. When I did keto, was in ketosis, I had horrible brain fog. My attention span was about 10 seconds.

I found out years ago that when I was dragging, simple carbs would wake me up. I've wondered about going down the path of less carbs but I have to live in front of a computer.

Week ago or two, one day I didn't feel like having breakfast--so I didn't. Over the course of the week I skipped breakfast, had a light lunch, regular dinner, snack before bed. I practically had to have a nap before dinner, and was crashing hard in the afternoon--you know, during working hours. I probably need to figure out how to adjust to a carb-lighter diet but at the same time, I don't want to deal with brain fog (which I seem to have often) and loss of productivity.

 

[Astro14]

Off topic--sometimes I wonder if we would be here today if we hadn't figured out cheap carbs to fuel our brains for the last couple hundred years. Bad for the individual, good for society. Bit like performance enhancing drugs (or drugs in general)--great until the side effects hit.

But whatever might have been a "good" amount to fuel brains, we're well past it now.

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I have to chuckle. Wife and I are not great eaters, but our daughter... when we would go out to eat, starting at a young age, she would ask to have fries swapped for a salad. Not you typical 5 year old! She's become a picky eater, but in a good way. Too bad our other one didn't go that way, but he's on the autism spectrum, so that's been no help. That's less funny.


I found out years ago that when I was dragging, simple carbs would wake me up. I've wondered about going down the path of less carbs but I have to live in front of a computer.

Week ago or two, one day I didn't feel like having breakfast--so I didn't. Over the course of the week I skipped breakfast, had a light lunch, regular dinner, snack before bed. I practically had to have a nap before dinner, and was crashing hard in the afternoon--you know, during working hours. I probably need to figure out how to adjust to a carb-lighter diet but at the same time, I don't want to deal with brain fog (which I seem to have often) and loss of productivity.

Oh - I think it’s quite well understood that those surplus cheap/carb calories allowed the organization of societies and all their attendant ills, and advances. It gave rise to people able to amass power and influence over the surplus, creating administrators, bureaucrats, and despots, but also, freed from the struggle for daily subsistence, allowed the development of writing, science, and mathematics.

A true double-edged sword.

 

[Vil_Riker]

Oh - I think it’s quite well understood that those surplus cheap/carb calories allowed the organization of societies and all their attendant ills, and advances. It gave rise to people able to amass power and influence over the surplus, creating administrators, bureaucrats, and despots, but also, freed from the struggle for daily subsistence, allowed the development of writing, science, and mathematics.

A true double-edged sword.

Very true.

 

[#18FAN]

Off topic--sometimes I wonder if we would be here today if we hadn't figured out cheap carbs to fuel our brains for the last couple hundred years. Bad for the individual, good for society. Bit like performance enhancing drugs (or drugs in general)--great until the side effects hit.

But whatever might have been a "good" amount to fuel brains, we're well past it now.

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I have to chuckle. Wife and I are not great eaters, but our daughter... when we would go out to eat, starting at a young age, she would ask to have fries swapped for a salad. Not you typical 5 year old! She's become a picky eater, but in a good way. Too bad our other one didn't go that way, but he's on the autism spectrum, so that's been no help. That's less funny.


I found out years ago that when I was dragging, simple carbs would wake me up. I've wondered about going down the path of less carbs but I have to live in front of a computer.

Week ago or two, one day I didn't feel like having breakfast--so I didn't. Over the course of the week I skipped breakfast, had a light lunch, regular dinner, snack before bed. I practically had to have a nap before dinner, and was crashing hard in the afternoon--you know, during working hours. I probably need to figure out how to adjust to a carb-lighter diet but at the same time, I don't want to deal with brain fog (which I seem to have often) and loss of productivity.

I'm gonna bet during that week skipping breakfast the first meal you grabbed and was carb heavy. I'm gonna suggest you breakfast fast with protein and fat with very little carbs.
I myself eat very few carbs from breakfast to lunch and fuel workouts with a bit of carb and have a bit of carbs post workout for dinner but always focus on lean protein.

 

[supton]

I'm gonna bet during that week skipping breakfast the first meal you grabbed and was carb heavy. I'm gonna suggest you breakfast fast with protein and fat with very little carbs.
I myself eat very few carbs from breakfast to lunch and fuel workouts with a bit of carb and have a bit of carbs post workout for dinner but always focus on lean protein.

Don't recall now. Want to say, sandwich, so that would have carbs, and maybe an apple (more carbs). Good point, quick hits that run out.

Last week I gave up on that and made a 2 egg omelet on some whole grain bread thing, regular-ish lunch, and less afternoon crashing. Honestly, I think mid afternoon I just get tired of thinking.

 

[Pew]

Off topic--sometimes I wonder if we would be here today if we hadn't figured out cheap carbs to fuel our brains for the last couple hundred years. Bad for the individual, good for society. Bit like performance enhancing drugs (or drugs in general)--great until the side effects hit.

But whatever might have been a "good" amount to fuel brains, we're well past it now.

Probably not. Our ability to simplify basic life needs that include but not limited to food has allowed us to concentrate on other things like education. To add, the food pyramid was also poorly designed and very politically motivated. The new myplate is a step in the right direction but still doesn't differentiate between good and bad foods of a category. It's too bad that the poor food choices of the mid-late 1900s has lead society to our current issues to include obesity but also other issues that stem from unhealthy diets.

But with the recent explosion of health-conscience society, I think we're headed in a good direction now.

 

[vavavroom]

But with the recent explosion of health-conscience society, I think we're headed in a good direction now.

I accuse you of negligent optimism based on wishful thinking.

All trends indicate an ever-increasing rise of civilization diseases and associated comorbidities. By 2050 the current number of a half a billion diabetics worldwide is expected to increase to 1.3 billion. An increasingly uneducated and dumbed down population will not rise to the occasion of making decisions that benefit them. The irony is that all the beneficial information is available and accessible if one has the ability to parse the wheat from the chaff. But like one of my former coworkers said, "I eat what I want. I just take my Januvia and shoot more insulin." Can't fix lazy and stupid.

 

[andrewg]

I accuse you of negligent optimism based on wishful thinking.

All trends indicate an ever-increasing rise of civilization diseases and associated comorbidities. By 2050 the current number of a half a billion diabetics worldwide is expected to increase to 1.3 billion. An increasingly uneducated and dumbed down population will not rise to the occasion of making decisions that benefit them. The irony is that all the beneficial information is available and accessible if one has the ability to parse the wheat from the chaff. But like one of my former coworkers, said, "I eat what I want. I just take my Januvia and shoot more insulin." Can't fix lazy and stupid.

Great post....couldn't agree more.

 

[Marrk]

I have to have some carbs. When I did keto, was in ketosis, I had horrible brain fog. My attention span was about 10 seconds.

It used to be all I cared about was women and sex. Lately, I notice carbs have gotten to be important to me.

I must be gettin' old. How depressing is that?

 

[vavavroom]

It used to be all I cared about was women and sex. Lately, I notice carbs have gotten to be important to me.

I must be gettin' old. How depressing is that?

This is the funniest thing I have read all day.

Nooky or cookie?

 

[Pablo]

It used to be all I cared about was women and sex. Lately, I notice carbs have gotten to be important to me.

How important?

Should we not have snacks at your house??

 

[gman2304]

How important is the gene pool one inherits? AKA…pure dumb luck. We’ve all known folks that according to health science…shouldn’t be here. On the other hand we’ve all known folks who died young and in excellent health.

 

[Pew]

I accuse you of negligent optimism based on wishful thinking.

All trends indicate an ever-increasing rise of civilization diseases and associated comorbidities. By 2050 the current number of a half a billion diabetics worldwide is expected to increase to 1.3 billion. An increasingly uneducated and dumbed down population will not rise to the occasion of making decisions that benefit them. The irony is that all the beneficial information is available and accessible if one has the ability to parse the wheat from the chaff. But like one of my former coworkers said, "I eat what I want. I just take my Januvia and shoot more insulin." Can't fix lazy and stupid.

I know, honestly I think you future is much more probable than mine unfortunately . The extremes of industrializing developing countries (so workers who will need cheap and fast calories) and people like your coworker who abuse medicine (among the host of other pills that are given today), we may be in for a wild ride soon. I hope not though; I hope there's still good intentions and progress all around.