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Finally, proof for the 5K mile oil change, or something to laugh at/BITOG fodder
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Statements like these often come from individuals who read the elemental analysis from a basic VOA and believe they have the expertise of an STLE - CLS-certified professional. This is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
And that folks, is how many of you see yourselves ^
I'll edit this to "it's how some of you really are"
Empty, sanctimonious, vacant eyed slack jawed self proclaimed Google exspherts, bent on proving their superiority while striving to get "internet points"
I really miss the days when you could post something without some "skipping CD on a loop" 'holier than thou' royal fool basically calling you an idiot.
Pot, meet kettle.
I'll edit this to "it's how some of you really are"
Empty, sanctimonious, vacant eyed slack jawed self proclaimed Google exspherts, bent on proving their superiority while striving to get "internet points"
I really miss the days when you could post something without some "skipping CD on a loop" 'holier than thou' royal fool basically calling you an idiot.
Pot, meet kettle.
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10.000k OCI`s could only be done "safely" if a vehicle does long distance hauls or work for several hours per day like in a taxi duty. Few years ago before electric cars started to dominate the taxi marked, a typical taxi here in my country was a Mercedes E-class diesel with Bluetec engines. A lot of those cars can now be found on second hand marked with really high mileage. Now taxis aren`t run by the mechanics, so i suppose all of those former taxi vehicles have done their maintance at specified interval.
Now i`m not a an engineer but something tells me that if a car being used for several hours per day and does considerable mileage, the oil won`t sludge up that fast because it`s allways circulating. But on a car that`s driven for few miles per day, the standing oil around the engine when the engine is shut off would have plenty of time to heat soak/bake and thus sludging up faster. Oil lines around a turbo would be a perfect example where oil would sit and bake after the engine is shut off and oil circulation is stopped.
But this is just my theory as i`m not an engineer, i`m a mechanic. I`ve never seen a sludged up engines i work/service on, but those engines are in trucks/busses, they do very long OCI`s compared to passenger vehicles and use more robust oil.
Now i`m not a an engineer but something tells me that if a car being used for several hours per day and does considerable mileage, the oil won`t sludge up that fast because it`s allways circulating. But on a car that`s driven for few miles per day, the standing oil around the engine when the engine is shut off would have plenty of time to heat soak/bake and thus sludging up faster. Oil lines around a turbo would be a perfect example where oil would sit and bake after the engine is shut off and oil circulation is stopped.
But this is just my theory as i`m not an engineer, i`m a mechanic. I`ve never seen a sludged up engines i work/service on, but those engines are in trucks/busses, they do very long OCI`s compared to passenger vehicles and use more robust oil.
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I could not agree more with this, it’s the manufacturer defects that usually destroy engines prematurely, not the oil changes/oil/intervals (within reason). As long as that oil level is full and changed within some sort of reasonable interval you should be fine for a long time.
I have four destroyed Hyundai 2.4 engines on stands right now…blown bearings…crankshafts that look so black and burnt you’d think someone put a torch on them. Oil changes did not do this, manufacturing defects did. Poor quality control at the factory leading to metal shavings being stuck inside the crankshaft oil feed paths right from the factory. Oil change intervals were never going to save these engines.
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Ya. I'm thinking BS by the author of the post. Too many shops love to play the scare card in order to increase frequency of repeat business.
What's interesting is that additive levels in todays PCMOs aren't all that far off from those 10-20-30 years ago and our gasoline is significantly cleaner (ULSG).
Edit: Sure power density has increased along with increased demand for heat management but I don't know if engine oil is running significantly hotter than in years past.
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Yeah he’s not a mechanic or anything. Definitely doesn’t know as much as the average BITOGer
I have had friends and family lose engines due to broken timing belts, head gaskets, and catastrophic valvetrain failure. Not once have I seen an engine manufactured in the past 30 years wear out due to faulty oil change practices. It's just not like it used to be. Can it happen? Of course. Is the average person going to wear out a modern engine doing 10k OCI's with the cheapest full synthetic they can get that meets the manufacturer's specifications? Almost certainly not.
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Exactly! But yet we still hear on a daily basis from car owners who say "I change my oil every 3000 miles because it's cheap insurance" It really isn't cheap though. Factored out over your entire life you're literally throwing away hundreds or even thousands of dollars needlessly. In one group on Facebook that I belong to where people post their high mileage cars, there was a recent post where someone had something like 600,000 miles on their car and they mentioned that they had always done 10,000 mile oil changes. Some idiot actually said to him that they should have been doing it every 3k! Why? It clearly was working, so what point would it have been to waste all that money over the years?
He is a YouTuber though so he automatically gets a dunce cap and put in the corner.
Like Mike Tyson is about to do to Jake Paul.
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Mobil1 and valvoline have their fair share of love here. I wouldnt want to put that swill in my motor
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Why? Both make quality oils. Have you learned nothing from this site at all?
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SCAMSOIL or nothingWhy? Both make quality oils. Have you learned nothing from this site at all?
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The fact that you call it that shows you aren’t learning anything either
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