Ferrari 812 Superfast Oil Consumption

[RooflessVW]

I'd also try Redline. Quality base stock, low NOACK, should burn less.

15W-50, 20W-50, or maybe 10W-60.

 

[Passport1]

My last Ferrari also burned oil. Traded it for a VW rabbit diesel which was a bit quicker.

 

[edyvw]

I'd also try Redline. Quality base stock, low NOACK, should burn less.

15W-50, 20W-50, or maybe 10W-60.

He is in FL, that M1 15W50 might be good choice.

 

[AEHaas]

I have varied the RPM as I have driven but usually just leave the trans in AUTO mode. I have run the RPM up to 9,000 twice but under minimal load. And only after the engine was warmed up. That takes about 20 minutes and the oil only gets up to 165F. When warm the oil pressure at 650 RPM idle is still over 30 PSI.

I think all US cars are likely to be under the 3 year warranty as yet. The cars also include 7 years of free factory service. Ferrari Tampa Bay asked that they do all these services rather than myself. Apparently they get credit and paid from FNA for the service. There would be no charge for picking up the car in a closed transport and then returning it after the service. Also, I guess it looks good if and when I decide to sell the car.

I did discover a radiator hose that looked as if it may come off soon. It was not fully seated. This was the only issue of the car as reported by others on ferrarichat. I did not want to part with my new car for the dealership to repair it. I did it myself. I discovered the underbody panel, probably 6 feet or longer was a PITA to take off so I cut it in half to made service henceforth easier.

AEHaas

 

[AEHaas]

I could change the oil in between "factory" oil changes I suppose. 'Just to experiment. I might use my own mix"

 

[edyvw]

I have varied the RPM as I have driven but usually just leave the trans in AUTO mode. I have run the RPM up to 9,000 twice but under minimal load. And only after the engine was warmed up. That takes about 20 minutes and the oil only gets up to 165F. When warm the oil pressure at 650 RPM idle is still over 30 PSI.

I think all US cars are likely to be under the 3 year warranty as yet. The cars also include 7 years of free factory service. Ferrari Tampa Bay asked that they do all these services rather than myself. Apparently they get credit and paid from FNA for the service. There would be no charge for picking up the car in a closed transport and then returning it after the service. Also, I guess it looks good if and when I decide to sell the car.

I did discover a radiator hose that looked as if it may come off soon. It was not fully seated. This was the only issue of the car as reported by others on ferrarichat. I did not want to part with my new car for the dealership to repair it. I did it myself. I discovered the underbody panel, probably 6 feet or longer was a PITA to take off so I cut it in half to made service henceforth easier.

AEHaas

Big thing among Ferrari owners. I would personally just keep adding oil. You might experiment and switch to other oil in between just to see.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

These cars have been out for 3 years and it seems many are reporting up to 3 quarts of oil usage per 1,000 miles. This is “normal” according to the owners manual. The engine is an 800 HP V12 running up to 9,000 RPM. No turbo, naturally aspirated. It uses a 5W-40 and the manual states that one should not run high RPM until the engine oil gets above 160F.

I had one of the original Ford Expedition SUVs from new to 45,000 miles until I traded it in. It was the only vehicle I ever owned that consumed oil. From day one until the day I parted with that truck it used the same amount of oil. It was around a quart per 1,000 miles. I thought at first the consumption would go down after the engine was fully broken in but it never changed.

I have used grades of 20 to 60 in single engines that never consumed any oil. So I do not think it is an issue of grades.

The current 812SF has 1,300 miles and used 2 quarts in the last 500 miles. The oil in the oil tank (dry sump) is clean, odorless, and there is no smell of the exhaust and no smoke. No leaks underneath. The oil capacity is 14qts. Where is the oil going?? Thoughts??

AEHaas

What does your Stealership say its within spec?

 

[2EHA]

I started digging on ferrarichat. You yourself posted that the last quart in the oil tank (at “max” on dipstick) being in very close proximity to a crankcase vent line and oil is supposedly pooling into the intake?

I would fabricate a catch can to confirm your findings but again it’d have to be totally reversible. Remember that oil vapor isn’t always perfectly separated and a lot of that can pool up in the throttle bodies and cause a sticky mess.

 

[wpod]

Ferraris aren't your everyday run of the mill passenger car engine. That being said this is BITOG so Amsoil or Redline oils and Fram Ultra filters should fix any and all problems.

 

[AEHaas]

I was going to bring that up but so many people are reporting high consumption. Others seem to be able to hold the level over where mine disappears so quickly. Some report not filling over the minimum level but it continues to drop fast from there. So both spilling into the vent system and engine consumption seem to be issues.
AEHaas

 

[wpod]

5W-20?

 

[OilUzer]

Q1:
where does the 3 qts of oil per 1000 miles and per design ends up going? Does it totally burn off without leaving any deposit on engine parts? what other issues can it cause long term let's say after 80K miles.

Q2:
aren't thicker oil typically inferior (inferior base oil) and as a result leave even more deposits or burn more?

 

[doublebase]

Yeah my McLaren uses oil, but surprisingly my Lamborghini doesn’t. But I change the oil every 1,500 miles because I’m redlining almost all of the time. And I shouldn’t say “I”, change the oil. Lol. My personal mechanic does...he lives in my guest house.

 

[OILJUNKIE]

What does a Ford Expedition have in common with a Ferrari 812 Superfast?

 

[alcyon]

What does a Ford Expedition have in common with a Ferrari 812 Superfast?

Both modern vehicles with low tension piston rings ?

 

[thastinger]

Probably just need to figure out how to retrofit an FL-820S filter on there and throw some Lucas oil treatment to it.

 

[Ram02]

Can’t believe Pennzoil burning in this nice Ferrari . Pennzoil needs to get a handle on this

 

[02SE]

We could postulate all sorts of reasons for the oil use. If I were the owner, I'd contact the factory and request an explanation from an engineer who designed, or was part of the engine design team.

 

[AEHaas]

We could postulate all sorts of reasons for the oil use. If I were the owner, I'd contact the factory and request an explanation from an engineer who designed, or was part of the engine design team.

Excellent suggestion. I did not think of this. I will work on it though give me some time.

AEHaas

 

[ZeeOSix]

The current 812SF has 1,300 miles and used 2 quarts in the last 500 miles. The oil in the oil tank (dry sump) is clean, odorless, and there is no smell of the exhaust and no smoke. No leaks underneath. The oil capacity is 14qts. Where is the oil going?? Thoughts??

AEHaas

At that rate I'd think there would be some smoke blowing out the exhaust pipes. See any smoke going on?