If so why ? are the price similar ?
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European oil better than North american oil ??
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What do you mean?
European brands versus USA brands?
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European refineries versus USA refineries?
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Oils designed for European cars versus typicsl USA domestic spec. oils?
European brands versus USA brands?
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European refineries versus USA refineries?
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Oils designed for European cars versus typicsl USA domestic spec. oils?
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Oil quality is not bound to nationality. Prices for similar oils, disregarding hidden taxes (which may double or triple the final price), may well be in line with each other.
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What Euro oils interest you?
A quality syn POA/Ester oil is going to cost you between $15-$22 (12-18 Euro's) per liter at a service station.
With some brands you pay for the name too I guess.
Buying in bulk saves some money but not much.
With some brands you pay for the name too I guess.
Buying in bulk saves some money but not much.
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A quality syn POA/Ester oil is going to cost you between $15-$22 (12-18 Euro's) per liter at a service station.
With some brands you pay for the name too I guess.
Buying in bulk saves some money but not much.
Check your local mineral oil tax (includes synthetic oil, for what it's worth) and see why the prices are so high. Try the local Baumarkt for discounted bulk oil. Don't you have OBI or Praktiker?
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The normal sales tax in the Netherlands is 19%.
Its called "BTW" and that translates to "Added Value Tax"
They certainly add value.....
OBI and Praktiker Baumarkt are German stores, I haven't seen them around in the Netherlands, not where I live.
Automotive part stores do sell engine / gear oil, but if you "want" Shell you have to buy from them, eiher at a Shell service station or via a distributor in bulk (is what I did last time)
As far as I know Shell oil is not sold in independant stores.
European prices are certainly not better then North American prices.
Btw.. there are lots of non-European (read Japanese
In general cars in Europe are smaller, have smaller engines with smaller sumps (less oil) and long drain intervals so that may be why "European" oil is considered to be better?
And... my grandfather / father never taught me to change engine oil every 4800 km and only use dino 10W-30.
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The normal sales tax in the Netherlands is 19%.
Its called "BTW" and that translates to "Added Value Tax"
They certainly add value.....
I am quite aware of Belasting over de Toegevoegde Waarde. But the high price is mostly due to the high tax on mineral oil, which is also behind the high Euro fuel prices. Don't fret, at least the money is used to fill all those potholes.
If you don't have that type store, cross the border. I used to live near the Austrian border and used to gas up with less expensive Austrian gas twice a week.
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Sorry guys for an incomplete question.
Its just that I was looking at some Motul and Ipponne oil in 5w30 grade , and the dealership is selling these oil between 10 and 15.00 Cdn a liter for Jaso synthetic , its absolutly insane and I am arguing with some guys regarding their choice .
Its just that I was looking at some Motul and Ipponne oil in 5w30 grade , and the dealership is selling these oil between 10 and 15.00 Cdn a liter for Jaso synthetic , its absolutly insane and I am arguing with some guys regarding their choice .
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So this is about exotic, imported Euro oil available in NA, specifically Canada? I wouldn't go for those oils simply based on price, but if it blows a cool breeze up those guys' skirts... I guess these oil are that expensive mostly due to little demand and the extra cost due to sourcing and shipping. Exclusivity costs. Is it worth it? Probably not.
I've seen Motul on Ebay
If you want a fancy euro synthetic oil the best value is German Castrol 0w30 at Autozone here in the states. Pick some up across the border and impress your friends back home. We wont tell that you went to Albany to get oil made in Germany.
If you want a fancy euro synthetic oil the best value is German Castrol 0w30 at Autozone here in the states. Pick some up across the border and impress your friends back home. We wont tell that you went to Albany to get oil made in Germany.
ok guys I knew I was right, as always ;-))
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Hmmmmm...
With oil prices like that it sounds like the Netherlands needs an "Aadvaance Aauto" or maybe even a "Vaalmaart". I bet they would have a great deal on 5 kilogram boxes of stroopwaffels too. Yum.
But seriously I love the Netherlands. I was there in the fall. Amsterdam is one of my favourite cities in the world along with New York, London and Milan.
And I actually saw Famke Janssen while walking down the street...
Oh yeah..oil
Higher taxes, more common synthetics, less DIY, longer recommended OCI, and the general lack of the Walmart culture probably all influence oil prices.
I really liked Agip oil when I ran it in my last car. It was not really any more expensive than Castrol here in Canada but you never see it at retail.
With oil prices like that it sounds like the Netherlands needs an "Aadvaance Aauto" or maybe even a "Vaalmaart". I bet they would have a great deal on 5 kilogram boxes of stroopwaffels too. Yum.
But seriously I love the Netherlands. I was there in the fall. Amsterdam is one of my favourite cities in the world along with New York, London and Milan.
And I actually saw Famke Janssen while walking down the street...
Oh yeah..oil
Higher taxes, more common synthetics, less DIY, longer recommended OCI, and the general lack of the Walmart culture probably all influence oil prices.
I really liked Agip oil when I ran it in my last car. It was not really any more expensive than Castrol here in Canada but you never see it at retail.
Sounds like GC on sale at AutoZone is a screaming deal if you feel the need for synthetics.
Maybe we should smuggle it back to Europe........
Maybe we should smuggle it back to Europe........
Hahaha!
Your efforts to translate Walmart into Dutch isn't that bad at all.
Just add "a"'s
You'll find lots of girls in the Netherlands looking like Famke Janssen
Oh yeah.. oil.
Sorry, I guess my reply is completley
Yes and no. The oils are somewhat labelled better eg. grading system (ACEA). They have a better wider choice of selection of grades of both dino and syth.. And have manuf. specs right on the bottles making things somewhat easier to choose. None of this 'meets or exceeds' general blanket statements.
And finally, they have 'boutique' oils eg. Motul, Shell Ferrari Formula concomitant with the exotics produced there for these purposes. Worth the price? Not for the average US car. But then is Redline either for your vehicle? You make the call. Definately better choices though....
And finally, they have 'boutique' oils eg. Motul, Shell Ferrari Formula concomitant with the exotics produced there for these purposes. Worth the price? Not for the average US car. But then is Redline either for your vehicle? You make the call. Definately better choices though....
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If you want a fancy euro synthetic oil the best value is German Castrol 0w30 at Autozone here in the states. Pick some up across the border and impress your friends back home. We wont tell that you went to Albany to get oil made in Germany.
No need to cross the border from Canada into the U.S. to purchase GC, it's available at Wal-Marts in Canada and I think at Canadian Tire locations.
Are European oils better than American/Canadian oils?
I think they must be better. The last two times I leased a car in France, the owners manual always says to Change Oil every 30,000km. Get out the handy-dandy calculator and 30,000km equates to 18,750 miles. Can you think of any car sold in the US or Canada that tells you to change the oil every 18,750 miles? Yes their oil costs more, but you only change it a third as much.
Don't know about the Dutch version of Wal-Mart and K-Mart, but in France, it is "Carefour" and "Auchon".
I think they must be better. The last two times I leased a car in France, the owners manual always says to Change Oil every 30,000km. Get out the handy-dandy calculator and 30,000km equates to 18,750 miles. Can you think of any car sold in the US or Canada that tells you to change the oil every 18,750 miles? Yes their oil costs more, but you only change it a third as much.
Don't know about the Dutch version of Wal-Mart and K-Mart, but in France, it is "Carefour" and "Auchon".
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